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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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anurag306048426ahd

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a lot of times i just want to remove an object but gen ai almost all the time provide an other object instead of removing it

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Robert3765919927o3

Participant

Using this in Lightroom Classic. Initially unimpressed and here's why.

I tried it on an image that I had cropped leaving half a photographer and his bag on the side of the pitch in the background. Nothing I could do in Lightroom would remove this cleanly. Frustrating when a couple of swipes of the Remove Tool in Photoshop did the job,.

Then I found that the Lightroom remove worked quite well on the uncropped image. It also worked perfectly in Lightroom on a tif file created from the cropped version of the raw.

Conclusion, remove tool is not considering the crop when it does its analysis. Maybe its always been like this and I have only just realised it. Its not obvious why it should be like this though - to me its logical to crop first then tidy up remaining unwanted elements.

Rikk Flohr_Photography

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Community Manager

@Robert3765919927o3 For optimal results, the order needs to be:

Denoise
Heal (Including Gen Remove)
Crop/Edit
AI Selective edits

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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ludovic3550639580dt

Participant

super outil mais parfois il bugg et ne fait que remplacer un objet par un autre alors qu'on souhaiterai simplement qu'il le fasse disparaître !

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brindleyimages

Participant

My first trial at Generative AI Remove was a little disconcerting as the item I was attempting to remove was filled by a similar, but different object eg, I wanted to remove a vehicle from a road scene but it was replaced by a different vehicle going in the opposite direction...uuuh? I thought I was following the instructions provided by Adobe, but since that anomoly the feature works like majic. I will try and refine the process as I go. I agree with one of the contributors to this thread that some feathering adjustment may be useful.

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simonringsmuth

Participant

I'm using Lightroom Classic on Mac, and while this is a nifty party trick I can't see myself using it in any serious capacity and certainly not on images for clients. It's very clear that something has been removed, and what is generated to fill the area is oddly-shaped, discolored, and not consistent with the rest of the images.

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KayleeAnnePhotography

Participant

It is not as good as photoshops version. it does not blend well with the background and makes it very obvius you are editing something out. photoshop's is 100% better

janb35994851

Participant

I tried to remove bright blue feather from the edge of the picutre but only a small portion was removed and approximately 3/4" remained. The background was a distictive dark green grass. I tried widening the area around the feathers but it didn't remove any more. I started over a couple of times without success.

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rdverb

Participating Frequently

Is there any wayto get back to content-aware fill until we get past this beta stage for the generative replace feature?

Michael J. Hoffman

Community Expert

Is there any wayto get back to content-aware fill until we get past this beta stage for the generative replace feature?
By @rdverb

Yes, just uncheck the "Generative AI" checkbox in the tool and it will be the same Content Aware fill as before.

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rdverb

Participating Frequently

nope - LrC crashes ever since updating when trying to use either with or
without checkbox.

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Rick
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Baldkat82

Participant

I tried lightroom generative AI removal on two people in the background of a shot and it didn't remove them. It just changed their appearances. This is the original image. All 3 variations provided were alternate appearances for the people. Photoshop AI removal works just fine on it.