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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

purpleturtle1988
Participant
May 23, 2024

I find the feature generally quite useful. However, in Lightroom, I usually prefer to remove elements rather than replace them. Although it often works well, there are also instances where unwanted elements are added.

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 23, 2024

When elements are added, it's an indication that the area/element that you intended to remove has not been sufficiently selected/masked. This would include any shadows or projections. 

Participating Frequently
May 23, 2024

It would be really nice if Gen AI could include a text box to guide it and a reference image for further guidance.

 

ALSO: Please can you develop a system for Gen AI to replace backgrounds but not with a generated background... with a provided image. The advantage with portraits/objects would be 'edge detail'.  Even in photoshop I have real issues with this still and I'd love to see big improvements here. 

STEINS-ART
Participating Frequently
May 23, 2024

yes, that would be an improvement. same with stitched panoramas, as mentioned in my post on page 4 🙂

Participant
May 23, 2024

Let us give brief  and prompt on the remove, because i tried to remove a wire from a wedding shot, and instead of removing them, it changed the look of it. And before AI it was grey, after the process it became red. 😄 (all 3 variations, tried multiple times). So it just made it worse. But happy that LRC got this feature. Keep up

Participant
May 23, 2024

ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. ty vm 

Manemos
Participant
May 23, 2024

Good start, but we can see the edges of the modification like a sort of shadow. Photoshop remains more efficient.

Participant
May 23, 2024

My other concern re its development so far is it softens the selected area a little too much. This can work sometimes if the area is within a less focused area of the frame

-inuk-
Participant
May 23, 2024

Retrait d'un lampadaire sur fond de ciel et à proximité de la tête d'une personne.

La sélection est en deux parties, réalisée en utilisant la fonctionnalité "ajouter".

Seule la première partie est traitée. Aucun résultat sur la deuxième (quelque soit l'une des trois propositions)

Le lampadaire disparaît (seulement sur l'une des trois itérations) mais l'IA maintient sa forme en prenant la tonalité la plus claire du ciel.

La partie sur la tête de la personne n'est pas respectée. Voici le résultat.

Les deux autres propositions maintiennent le lampadaire à sa place en modifiant sa forme, un exemple ci-dessous.

Participant
May 23, 2024

en algunos casos en vez de hacer que desparezca el objeto, detecta qué objeto es y en vez de quitarlo pone otro distinto y no hay manera de que lo haga desaparecer

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 23, 2024

You need to esnure that the entire area/object to be removed, which includes shadows and projections is masked.  See attached screenshot.

 

Participant
May 23, 2024

The welcome removal tool is incredible. I think that the selection of objects or subjects is still not as refined as in PS, that is, it should be more precise at the edges. And just like in PS, passing the pointer over the object will automatically highlight the selection. It would also be important if we could add additional selections. Another important aspect would be a background fill tool.