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Kemite Multimedia
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November 27, 2018
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Slow Rendering in PP 2019

  • November 27, 2018
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I'm having significant problems with rendering in Premiere 2019 with Mojave operating system.

I'm using at Mac Pro2012 (5,1)

Processor 3.2 ghz quald core intel xeon

24 GB memory

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2048 Mb graphics card

A simple 2 minute video is taking close to an hour to render and that's with little major effects being used.

Any suggestions? Any idea if updates to resolve this issue are coming?

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Correct answer Mo Moolla

Your comments on workflow is 100% on point! I admit, the ease of operation on short form video makes me a little lazy on tech issues I know I should be doing (such as those pesky sequence settings). I do a lot of commercials and short films so it's easy to get it done with this machine. But your info about sequence settings alone made me pause with an aha! moment.

Thanks for that!


Hi Kemi. Yes the 680 performs well on Sierra but Mojave goes it a run for the money. I would look at any of the newer Nvidia cards with the MOST CUDA cores u can get. Maybe a 1070 or so. I still use the 780Ti's on all my <acs because they were built as computational cards. However with the latest OS releases etc there might be a change I need to embrace soon.

Remember to keep those sequence settings tidy

Mo

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Jerkwithacamera
Known Participant
November 28, 2018

We are seeing all sorts of issues rendering and playback in PP2019 and we are rolling back all of our systems to 2018 for the foreseeable future.  As a test I made a brand new project in PP2019 and added some footage (prores files) did some quick cuts and colour correction, nothing really crazy but it took 49:08 min to export the 3 min clip. I took that project and 'downgraded it" using Premiere Project Downgrader​ (which is a super AWESOME TOOL FYI) and then opened that up in 2018 and it took 2:17 min to render, same settings, same footage, same colour,same everything....  This was Windows 10 - I7 7740X 4.3Ghz, 64G's ram, Nvidia GTX 1080 TI 11G

So we tested this on our imac 5k's (2017 4.2Ghz with Radeon Pro 580 8G's) at the studio and saw similar results.

Programs have bugs, I get that things can't be perfect but between 2019 projects opening crashed, slow scrubbing (1080 prores footage with no colour/effects in the timeline won't play back smoothly at 1/4 quality)  and then just not rendering out at all when you finally get the project done, 2019 was not working for us at all

So kemitesound.com​ it might not be your hardware. Try downgrading the project with the above link and see what you are getting for render times.

    K
    Kemite MultimediaAuthor
    Participating Frequently
    November 28, 2018

    I actually did that yesterday and your 100% correct in that it was a much smoother ride. I'm going to look into the new card (keeping the receipt) and experiment with 2019 before committing to it. I want to see what Apple is going to put out with the Mac Pro 2019 edition before making a commitment.

    Mo Moolla
    Mo Moolla
    Legend
    November 27, 2018

    Hi Kemi

    Can you share the following info :

    1. Raw footage info

    2. Sequence Settings

    3. Are there any effects or grading effects done

    R Neil Haugen​ I have 2 of the same Macs I use on TVC's etc. The Mid 2012 5.1 quad (8 core) macs with a GTX 680 is by no means a slouch. Only bottlenecks are the 1333 RAM and the half bandwidth SATA interfaces for internal SSD's. I don't think the problem is the hardware. Lets see what Kemi comes back with and see if we can assist

    Mo

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    November 27, 2018

    You have more experience of that rig than I, that's for sure!

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    Mo Moolla
    Mo Moolla
    Legend
    November 27, 2018

    R Neil Haugen​ Rick Gerard​

    You are correct in saying the tech is now outdated compared to the newer, faster tech.

    However, if set up correctly, they are amazing machines.

    The trick is to make sure the hardware config is done correctly to suit the software its runnings.

    Most people just throw in as much RAM as possible, big GPUs, SSD's etc and forget to set up the correct workflow for AE and PP. The software is just not utilising the hardware correctly so the end user gets confused and blames either the software or hardware.

    As most pro users know, WORKFLOW IS EVERYTHING.

    This is the education that's lacking as its now all too easy to easy to drag and drop and begin an edit.

    Ask most what a scratch disk or a proxy is and they get dizzy.

    The guys who work with long form edits know this rule all too well and the thread on theatrical workflow is a good example of what to do and what not to.

      R Neil Haugen
      R Neil Haugen
      Legend
      November 27, 2018

      That MacPro is of an era that is long, long gone. A slow 4-core CPU, slow memory, and a video card that isn't even recognized anymore by Premiere Pro. Sad to say, but that hardware is just old. You'd probably do better to stay in 2017 or 2018 versions with it.

      Neil

      Everyone's mileage always varies ...
      K
      Kemite MultimediaAuthor
      Participating Frequently
      November 28, 2018

      Wow. Surprising answer. While waiting for response, I did some research on my own and I have to say that is not quite the answer. While it is a old Mac Pro, it was built to last for a little while. After all, it's only SIX YEARS OLD!. After further research, I am finding a card that can replace the one I have, which IS old. My workaround presently has been to use the 2018 version of Premiere Pro which has solved the slow render issue while I wait for the new card to arrive.

      FYI, the reason so many of us have not gone to the new Mac Pro is unlike the 2012 which has allowed us to use several hard drives and boot in multiple OS, the new one limits us. Thus we are all waiting for Apple to do the right thing with a new Mac Pro which we expect in 2019.

      Thanks for your assistance.

      R Neil Haugen
      R Neil Haugen
      Legend
      November 28, 2018

      Mo knows the Mac side better than I ... but we've had quite a few Macs of that era discussed here where especially if one wanted to do any 4k or log/RAW work ... they struggled pretty hard.

      "Only" six years old in computerverse is ... while not quite always dinosaur ... tends to be using a walker or at least a cane, so to speak.

      Neil

      Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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