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August 19, 2020
Question

Source monitor In point into sequence is NOT the in point

  • August 19, 2020
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I am working with mixed frame rates. When I set an in point in the source monitor and drag it to the sequence, it always picks the frame before it as the in point. WHY?

It's not an interpolation thing. I have tested it and ruled out interpolation.

Anyone else have this annoying issue? 

 

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Mike Dziennik
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 26, 2020
R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 26, 2020

Done! Thanks for putting that together ... as yes, this does need fixing.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Mike Dziennik
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 25, 2020

All clips progressive and show 'No Fields' in project panel with no interpretation.

23.976 Sequence:

23.976 clip: OK.

25 clip: Previous frame (SM: 00:00:04:15 > TL: 00:00:04:14)

29.97 clip: Previous frame (SM: 10:11:27:10 > TL: 10:11:27:09)

If I mark in-out on first frame of 25 clip, I cannot drag, nor edit clip to timeline. If I mark first & second frame: I can, but only first frame lands on timeline.

 

25 Sequence:

23.976 clip: Previous frame (SM: 00:00:03:00 > TL: 00:00:02:23)

25 clip: OK.

29.97 clip: OK.

 

Now it gets weird:

29.97 Sequence:

23.976 clip: OK.

25 clip: Insert & Overwrite edit OK.       Drag from source monitor takes previous frame (SM: 00:00:04:15 > TL: 00:00:04:14)

29.97 clip: OK.

 

So there is some issue with dragging/dropping from source monitor (incl. audio/video drag icons below) since a different result is achieved between the two. Additionally, the fact I cannot edit the first frame of a 25 clip onto a 23.976 timeline is funky.

No confirmation that this is a Mac only issue yet, since @Ann Bens can partly replicate. Can you try editing first frame of a 25 clip onto a 23.976 timeline?

R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 25, 2020

Great post, Mike!

 

Now ... can this get posted over on the UserVoice system?

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Mike Dziennik
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 23, 2020

MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2019)

2.3 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9

32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4

Radeon Pro 5500M.

Catalina 10.15.6.

 

So this could be a Mac only issue...anyone else confirm on MacOS?

blaow-coAuthor
Inspiring
August 24, 2020

I am on PC so no

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 24, 2020

Tried a 23.98 clip in a 29.97 and could replicate.

Odd framerate. PAL has straight numbers.

I am a PAL person but something with pull down? Just guessing here.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
August 21, 2020

Can't replicate here on Win10 ...

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
blaow-coAuthor
Inspiring
August 21, 2020

Premiere version?
and just to make sure, you are trying, say a 2997 clip into a 2398 sequence? 

Harold Silva
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 21, 2020

Asumo que son videos de celular.
Si tienes ese problema trata de cambiar el frame rate segun la foto y listo.

Harold Silva B.
blaow-coAuthor
Inspiring
August 21, 2020

You are referring to a different issue. I don't want to interpret the footage.

Mike Dziennik
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 21, 2020

Hmmm....yes. I can replicate. I've tried 23.98 - 25 - 29.97 sequences and clips and it seems to always use the frame prior to the in-point. 

Issue present on 14.3.1 and 14.3.2. Can anyone else confirm?

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 21, 2020

No I cannot confirm. Same frame in timeline as in SM.

Tested 25 and 50 and 59.94.

blaow-coAuthor
Inspiring
August 21, 2020

@Ann, you on Mac or PC?