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tspaul
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March 18, 2010
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Editing topics in the HTML view causes Master page message

  • March 18, 2010
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There are four writers in my group using RoboHelp 8. We use master pages to add a special navigation bar to the top of each topic. Whenever most of us edit a topic in the HTML view and then save it, we get a message saying that the topic is using a master page and the header or footer has been modified, even though we have done nothing to the header or footer. We then have the choice of changing the master page or just the topic, neither of which seems to make much difference. The association with the master page becomes lost and needs to be reapplied after this.

In large help projects, this costs us a lot of time and annoyance. It appears to us at least to be a bug. Is it, or is there something we can do either in the topics or in the master page to make this problem go away? Sometimes we can avoid the problem by just editing in teh Design view, but there are times we need to change the code.

I did see another thread on this, but it was marked answered, and there were no helpful answers to us in that thread.

Thank you,

Tammy

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    Anonymous
    March 23, 2010

    Hi,

    I've also been experiencing this bug on a regular basis since I've been using RH8 under very similar conditions. I'd also be very interested to know what's going on here.

    One thought I have is that it's somehow connected with the different ways that RH6 and RH8 do what used to be called templates and are now called master pages...

    This is the sort of problem that Adobe really need to get a handle on..

    RoboColum_n_
    RoboColum_n_
    Brainiac
    March 18, 2010

    Hi Tammy.

    Can you give us some more detail of what is in this header / navigation bar? It sounds like there is something in it that is being updated each time one of you open a topic.

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    tspaulAuthor
    Inspiring
    March 18, 2010

    Sure! We generate WebHelp, and we don't use the three-pane navigation. Instead, each topic is opened on its own from within our software. To help users with navigation through the help, we use master pages to apply a header that includes 6 buttons: Contents, Index, Search (not the RoboHelp search), Back, Other Help, and Close Help. The code includes JavaScript to make certain button effects work when the user hovers over the buttons or clicks them. It also includes JavaScript to make the Back and Close Help buttons work.

    Below I've pasted in the <body> part of the code from the master page. Hopefully this comes through OK in the forums.

    The message only seems to appear if we work on the topic in the HTML view.

    Tammy

    <body>
    <?rh-region_start type="header" style="width: 100%; border-left-color: #0000ff; border-right-color: #0000ff;
          border-bottom-color: #0000ff;" ?>
    <script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="ButtonEffects.js"></script>
    <table style="vertical-align: Center;" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#009966"
        width="100%">
      <tr style="vertical-align: top;">
       <td style="border: Solid 2px #009966;width: 100%; padding-right: 5px;
         padding-left: 5px; vertical-align: center; ">
       <div style="margin-top: 0pt;
         font-size: 8pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: #ffffff;"><a
        class="buttons" href="whgdata/whlstt0.htm" onmouseover="return changecontentsImage()"
        onmouseout="return changecontentsImageBack()" onmousedown="return handlecontentsclicked()"
        target="_self"><img name="jsbutton" src="ContentsButton.gif"
             alt="" width="63" height="16" border="0" /></a><a
        class="buttons" href="whgdata/whlsti0.htm" onmouseover="return changeindexImage()"
        onmouseout="return changeindexImageBack()" onmousedown="return handleindexclicked()"
        target="_self"><img name="ixbutton" src="IndexButton.gif"
             alt="" width="63" height="16" border="0" /></a><a
        class="buttons" href="../search.aspx" onmouseover="return changesearchImage()"
        onmouseout="return changesearchImageBack()" onmousedown="return handlesearchclicked()"
        target="_self"><img name="srchbutton" src="SearchButton.gif"
             alt="" width="63" height="16" border="0" /></a><a
        class="buttons" href="Javascript:history.back()" onmouseover="return changeBackButton()"
        onmouseout="return changeBackButtonBack()" onmousedown="return handleBackclicked()"
        style="color: #ffffff;"><br />
       <img name="BackButton" src="BackButton.gif" alt="" width="63"
         height="16" border="0" /></a><a class="buttons" href="../OtherHelp.aspx"
                 target="_self" onmouseover="return changeOtherHelpButton()"
                 onmouseout="return changeOtherHelpButtonBack()"
                 onmousedown="return handleOtherHelpButtonclicked()"><img
        name="OtherHelpButton" src="OtherHelpButton.gif" alt="" width="63"
        height="16" border="0" /></a><a class="buttons" href="javascript:if( opener != null && opener.ShrinkHelp ){void(opener.ShrinkHelp(this));}else{self.close();}"><span
        onmouseover="return changeCloseHelpButton()" onmouseout="return changeCloseHelpButtonBack()"
        onmousedown="return handleCloseHelpButtonclicked()"><font
        color="#FFFFFF"><img name="CloseHelpButton" src="CloseHelpButton.gif"
              alt="" width="63" height="16" border="0" /></font></span></a></div></td>
      </tr>
    </table>
    <p><img src="amhelp.gif" style="border: none;" alt="" width="102" height="34"
        border="0" /></p>
    <?rh-region_end type="header" ?>
    <div class="contentArea">
    <?rh-region_start type="body" ?>
    <h1>&#160;</h1>
    <p>&#160;</p>
    <p>&#160;</p>
    <p>&#160;</p>
    <?rh-region_end type="body" ?>
    </div>
    </body>
    </html>

    Willam van Weelden
    Willam van Weelden
    Inspiring
    March 23, 2010

    Hi,

    Is the HTML-view by any change changing the line ends of the header? I can imagine that RH sees that as a modification in the header.

    Greet,

    Willam

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