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February 22, 2009
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My top ten criteria for the new forums

  • February 22, 2009
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This is my view on what the new forums should provide. This is what I'll personally be measuring the new forums against when we have a fully testable beta version.

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1 - The new forums should encourage the participation of new members, both to feel encouraged to seek help in the first place, but also to stay and become long-term contributing members of the online community here.

2 - The new forums should alienate the existing users as little as possible, as there's no point in having questions with no answers - though equally there's no point in having answers with no questions. A tricky balance to strike.

3 - Response of the forums should be no worse, and hopefully better, than typical performance here in recent months. If that means beefing up the hardware to accommodate the demands of more graphic-intensive software, so be it.

4 - The forums should look not unlike the majority of typical modern internet forums. This will not be favoured by those familiar with the sparse appearance of the present forums, but incoming new members expect to see something that looks more contemporary and familiar in style, even if there's a modest performance cost.

5 - They should function not unlike the majority of modern internet forums, in terms of the user interface and usable features. If you've got your first problem with Adobe software and you arrive in the Adobe forums for the first time, you don't want then to be confronted with something that looks like another problem and which takes time and effort to understand. The learning curve should be absolutely minimal. There should be a very low turn-away rate (potential users taking one look and backing off before participating or even complaining).

6 - The search function should be state of the art. If you have a good manual for the product software, a good user interface for it, and a good search engine for the knowledgebase and forums, the number of questions needing to be asked should be significantly lower.

7 - To support the regular participants it should be possible to list the discussions which have unread posts in any given member's selected forums, and within those discussions it should be possible to go directly to the unread content without scrolling around to find it. It should then be possible to go to the next unread post in the next unread discussion without first going backwards to the overall list.

8 - NNTP access, though a mystery to me, seems highly valued by some, and providing it does not seem to mess with what the rest of us see (setting aside the quoting problem), so let's have it.

9 - An effective mechanism to enforce the forum rules by restricting access by individuals who persistently break the rules should be provided - and there should be no simple way round it. Failing that, provision of an inbuilt method for users to ignore posts by other specified users is necessary.

10 - There should be a properly functioning list of banned words.

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That's my top ten list of criteria - though in five minutes I'll probably think of some key stuff I have left out.

What's yours?
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    Kath-H
    Inspiring
    March 10, 2009
    Agreed. Given that people miss massive warnings about 'DO NOT POST ABOUT XXX IN HERE' and 'DO NOT DUMP CODE INTO THE FORUM, YOU'LL BREAK IT' they would need a lot more help to find their way here.
    Known Participant
    March 10, 2009
    > I don't know if the low number of people posting here means most
    don't care, or some other reason

    Well, there is the link on every page, but it is pretty easy to miss up there at the top. If they really wanted to get more people in here, they should bump the type size up a bit, and color it differently.

    I think many of the users of this forum got here from the About the Forums one ... I know I did. I only saw those little links after I found this place.
    March 10, 2009
    >other times I answer when I know something...

    you're being modest john. you answer a LOT of questions...
    John T Smith
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    March 10, 2009
    Adobe is going to (has already, to a great extent) make decisions
    about these forums based on what works best for Adobe... which is
    not always going to please everyone who uses the forums

    I don't know if the low number of people posting here means most
    don't care, or some other reason

    But, for all those who have stated they are going to leave once
    the forum software is changed, here are a couple products for
    anyone who wants to rent server space and build their own forum

    http://www.phpbb.com/ for an open source (free) forum product or
    look at SMF at http://www.simplemachines.org (also free) - I have
    not used either, only noted from previous Dreamweaver discussions

    I read several Adobe forums for information... sometimes I ask a
    question, other times I answer when I know something... the look
    of the forum is not the MAIN thing, the information is
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 10, 2009
    Cindy,

    You'd be surprised at how smoothly those forums run, once the veil of anonymity has been lifted.

    You might also be surprised at how many other forums allow you to look up the IP address of a poster by looking at the source of the page, just adding one extra step.

    I contribute to several such forums.
    Cindy-
    Known Participant
    March 10, 2009
    > Except those forums that display the posters IP address

    I would not use a forum that did that. I would not want that displayed to everyone.
    March 10, 2009
    what percentage of the 270k have been helped or had helping hand from the people responding to this thread. i believe i can claim (safely on the light side) at LEAST 5 or 6 hundred per year...
    Known Participant
    March 10, 2009
    Man, 270,000 users, and none of them "neophyte computer-users".
    March 10, 2009
    > For all I know, 200,000 of them are the same person logging in under different names to either argue or agree with themselves.

    aw come on. mr. todie doesn't have access to that many systems. : )
    Ramón G Castañeda
    Inspiring
    March 10, 2009
    &gt;Such is the life of forums. <br /> <br /> Except those forums that display the posters IP address. E.g. the multitude of forums hosted at melodysoft.com: <br /> <br />c <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1YjpxRIIfkpB6qN8jVyaVDyxebEdal" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1YjpxRIIfkpB6qN8jVyaVDyxebEdal_thumb.jpg" border="0" />