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Adobe Media Encoder -> Encore - H.264 Blu-ray

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August 10, 2010
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I just exported a Premiere Pro timeline using the Media Encoder with H.264 Blu-ray format and the 1080i 29.97 HQ preset. Presumably, you would choose this so that you do not have to transcode when you get to Encore. However, when I put my 16GB M4V file in a timeline, it wants to transcode saying it is "Untranscoded". Why? It also says the Blu-ray disc is only 11GB.

Please tell me there is something I can do to prevent from having to re-encode or transcode this file when it is already in a Blu-ray format.

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lightprism

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In January an Adobe programmer said a patch was forthcoming for this inability to use 2-pass VBR in Encore.... any news as of almost April? Do we have to wait until NAB to hear?

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Anonymous

Do you know who said so?

The developer who responded to me only said it's being fixed. I just checked with him yesterday that he said my sample works now in the pre-release build.

I've given up on Adobe to release patches. They don't care.

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lightprism

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Howard - I was referring to your earlier Jan post about an Adobe employee telling you that this problem was being corrected. I have nothing more than what you posted. It is strange because there are several Adobe TV training tutorials telling us how to make our own custom Blu-ray encoding settings, but then what is the point if you cannot actually use them in burning... seems like there is a disconnect somewhere. I suspect its something we users are messing up? Why would they go thru the trouble of training us to do something that has a failed end-result of not being able to burn to disc. But it seems you have worked this out pretty hard and were not able to make it successful.

And I also don't understand the lack of feedback from Adobe on this issue - they have defiinitely changed since I used Premiere 6.0 and are very open, vocal, and responsive.

HarpuaFSB

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Just wanted to jump in here and say I am having the same exact issue.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4117698#4117698

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4117565#4117565

Trying all the same stuff, Encore wants to transcode 2-Pass VBR High/Main m4v files. If I encode just a minute or two of my sequence, it'll take it fine but the whole thing ~1.5 hrs it wants to re-transcode it.

Very odd and VERY frustrating, especially considering trying to find work arounds involves waiting for six hour + encodes to complete

This has been around since CS4?

That is ridiculous.

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Anonymous

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4118773#4118773

I have a message from Adobe developer saying it's fixed in Encore. I am hoping we will get that as an update/patch.

HarpuaFSB

Participating Frequently

Yeah, I read that in another thread.

Unfortunately I can't wait around for a fix and will have to settle for VBR 1-Pass.

Very disappointing.

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ltwusc

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Thanks so MUCH Diana1314. You will now be reported to the Spam Patrol. If that isn't a PR line, I'm not sure what is.

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Keith_Clark

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Lolz.

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Anonymous

Hi,

I just wanted to say this bug, encore wanting to re-transcode, also happens with the PP Blu-ray MEG2 setting. I made a Blu-ray disc for the first time. Just used all default settings in adobe media encoder and a Blu-ray meg2 file. Encore wants to re-transcode the file. This should be fixed!! Plan and simple. Fix it. :-(

I love Premiere Pro, etc. But I hate that Adobe makes us, the end user, shell out $350 bucks just to get something fixed. The fix should be a free update. Stop creating a new version and work on fixing the current one. :-(. Bugs like this has been around since at least version CS2 and I am sick and tired that Adobe can't or won't fix the bugs. And we, the end user have to find our own work around. Plus I love the integration in CS5. that I don't have to render in a 3rd party app as a middle step as I had to in version CS3 to produce high quality DVDs. Adobe did finally implement a better and good quality workflow for authoring DVDs if you export/transcode one sequence at a time that is.

John Gerard

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ltwusc

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I can't believe, even with CS 5.5, this "bug" exists. It's ridiculous. If you're going to have a H.264 BluRay preset in Media Encoder, I should be able to drag those files in to Encore 5.5 with NO ISSUE. Yet it still wants to transcode.

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Anonymous

This bug is with only H264 VBR 2 Pass presets and if you change to VBR 1 Pass keeping evverything same, the bug should not be there.

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tfi_productions_44

Known Participant

i thought all 2pass BD would be shirked by encore...

Nope.

i interpret this as a 'main/2pass BD project' works,
but a 'high/2pass BD project' doesn't work..

Correct.

i'm confused with the 'going from 2 pass to 1 pass' because the forum threads say that 2pass doesn't work...

...unless you change the profile from High to Main.

thanks for helping

You're welcome.

-Jeff

hello Jeff,

i just read the thread '

Aug 21, 2010 2:23 AM

How do I fix an error with "Picture Timing SEI"?

and i checked my files and the export from PPRO is interlaced upper field first

and the transcode (that didn't complete) is also interlaced upper field first

i trashed the encore preferences before i started

so i think i've done everything correctly

again, i don't want to have to use another program

and i don't want to be limited to 1 pass...

thanks again,

j

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Keith_Clark

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muzicman82 wrote:
I just exported a Premiere Pro timeline using the Media Encoder with H.264 Blu-ray format and the 1080i 29.97 HQ preset. Presumably, you would choose this so that you do not have to transcode when you get to Encore. However, when I put my 16GB M4V file in a timeline, it wants to transcode saying it is "Untranscoded". Why? It also says the Blu-ray disc is only 11GB.
Please tell me there is something I can do to prevent from having to re-encode or transcode this file when it is already in a Blu-ray format.

is it that stupid "2 pass VBR" bug showing its ugly head?

<vent> i swear.... when it comes to DVD authoring encore is great, but encore BD authoring is just atrocious. if i had a first born son to sell, i would totally pony up for Sony Blu-Print and be done with it once and for all... but alas i'm dealing with what i have.... i really wish for CS6 they would give Sonic the middle finger if sonic won't update authorcore for adobe, and recreate encore from ground up to better work with BD on their own terms (like the work they did with overhauling/rewriting Audition) or have 2 seperate apps. Encore DVD with sonic authorcore engine and Encore BD with some new adobe proprietary nonsense. or try to hit-up sony to see if they would lend a scaled down engine of blu-print to be the backbone and say "up yours sonic, we got sony." i just wish encore BD was a smidge comparable to scenarist/blu-print/dostudio or such. why can't i make a flipping simple pop-up menu with backgrounds without jumping through all the layer edge hoops?!? i realize those apps are priced that way for a reason.... but i have yet to really be creatively inhibited when it comes to DVD authoring, but i'm constantly hitting walls and upsets with BD authoring when i step outside a few familiar templates. i want more interactivity. ah well... </vent>

muzicman82Author

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I think I just figured this out...

Based on posts from CS4, Adobe did not fix the H.264 Blu-ray presets where the Profile Level must be set to Main instead of High for Blu-ray compatibility in Encore.

That said, I believe the High profile level is actually adopted by Blu-ray standards, so perhaps the AME team has it right, but Encore is not correctly recognizing them?

John T Smith

Community Expert

Does this help?

CS5 Encore Files & Formats http://help.adobe.com/en_US/encore/cs/using/WS5C9E1CF8-B5BC-436f-89D3-61DDC02A2C47a.html

muzicman82Author

Participating Frequently

Thanks, but not really. The files in question ARE H.264, 1920x1080, yadda yadda. They're recognized in Encore, but Encore wants to transcode them even though they should already be a Blu-ray native format.

Aug 21, 2010 2:23 AM

How do I fix an error with "Picture Timing SEI"?

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