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Hey Adobe, ever heard of the trust thermocline of subscription plans? (not another increased fee!)

Explorer ,
Jan 03, 2024 Jan 03, 2024

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Dear fellow users and dear Adobe-Team-Members,

 

today I received yet another warning, that my subscription plan will be more expensive from February onward. I do not get it. There is no explanation. The e-mail is only stating the fact. The plan is already above my budget. Now there is another increase of the price of about 7% (wich makes it 14% above my limit). Do I have to face higher prices now from year to year?

 

The only effect this has on me is: I am now looking for alternatives in earnest. I no longer play with the thought but prepare myself to switch to open source.

 

The problem is: I am by far not the only one (community members might chime in, if you'd like).

 

Please, please consider the consequences! You are destroying your community on the long run. Is the (fragile outview of) profit worth to loose this? Should using Adobe be a consideration wether I can afford it? Or do you like to assemble the most creative peeps of the world? Which social impact you like to have? (I feel a bit stupid to ask this to the turbo-capitalistic company in Silicon Valley, though. But hey, I can at least point out the obvious question and hope for some reflection on the other side.)

 

To help further consideration I'd like to quote John Pull aka garius. In November 2022 he explained in a long Twitter-Thread the outcome of the so called "Trust Thermocline":

 

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One of the things I occasionally get paid to do by companies/execs is to tell them why everything seemed to suddenly go wrong, and subs/readers dropped like a stone.

So, with everything going on at Twitter rn, time for a thread about the Trust Thermocline.

 

So: what’s a thermocline? Well large bodies of water are made of layers of differing temperatures. Like a layer cake. The top bit is where all the waves happen and has a gradually decreasing temperature. Then suddenly there’s a point where it gets super-cold.

That suddenly is important. There’s reasons for it (Science!) but it’s just a good metaphor. Indeed you may also be interested in the “Thermocline of Truth” which a project management term for how things on a RAG board all suddenly go from amber to red.

But I digress.

 

The Trust Thermocline is something that, over (many) years of digital, I have seen both digital and regular content publishers hit time and time again. Despite warnings (at least when I’ve worked there). And it has a similar effect. You have lots of users then suddenly… nope.

And this does effect print publications as much as trendy digital media companies. They’ll be flying along making loads of money, with lots of users/readers, rolling out new products that get bought. Or events. Or Sub-brands. And then suddenly those people just abandon them.

Often it’s not even to “new” competitor products, but stuff they thought were already not a threat. Nor is there lots of obvious dissatisfaction reported from sales and marketing (other than general grumbling). Nor is it a general drift away, it’s just a sudden big slide.

 

So why does this happen? As I explain to these people and places, it’s because they breached the Trust Thermocline. I ask them if they’d been increasing prices. Changed service offerings. Modified the product. The answer is normally: “yes, but not much. And everyone still paid.”

Then I ask if they did that the year before. Did they increase prices last year? Change the offering? Modify the product? Again: “Yes, but not much.”

The answer is normally: “Yes, but not much. And everyone still paid.”

“And the year before?”
“Yes but not much. And everyone still paid.”

Well, you get the idea.

 

And here is where the Trust Thermocline kicks in. Because too many people see service use as always following an arc. They think that as long as usage is ticking up, they can do what they like to cost and product. And (critically) that they can just react when the curve flattens.

But with a lot of content products (inc social media) that’s not actually how it works. Because it doesn’t account for sunk-cost lock-in. Users and readers will stick to what they know, and use, well beyond the point where they start to lose trust in it. And you won’t see that. But they’ll only move when they hit the Trust Thermocline. The point where their lack of trust in the product to meet their needs, and the emotional investment they’d made in it, have finally been outweighed by the physical and emotional effort required to abandon it.

 

At this point, I normally get asked something like: “So if we undo the last few changes and drop the price, we get them back?” And then I have to break the news that nope: that’s not how it works. Because you’re past the Thermocline now. You can’t make them trust you again.

 

Classic examples of this behaviour are digital subscription services, where the product gets squeezed over time, or print magazines (particularly in B2B) that constantly ramp up their prices a little bit each year until it’s too late. Virtually the only way to avoid catastrophic drop-off from breaching the Trust Thermocline is not to breach it. I can count on one hand the times I’ve witnessed a company come back from it. And even they never reached previous heights.

 

So what’s the lesson for businesses here?

  • Watch for grumbling and listen to it.
  • Don’t assume that because people have swallowed a price or service change that’ll swallow another one.
  • Treat user trust as a finite asset. Because it is.

 

And I will admit this is one of the reasons I am (with sadness, because I’ve got a lot of value out of this place) watching Elon’s current actions wrt Twitter with curious horror. Because I’ve never seen someone make such a deep dive for the Trust Thermocline, so quickly.

 

(to read further on, there is the follow-up of user questions: "How to avoid hitting it. I’ll give you the same answer I give senior execs: I don’t know. But the pe..."

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Thanks for reading. And considering. And acting accordingly.

 

Best regards,
Franziska

 

 

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Jan 03, 2024 Jan 03, 2024

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Thank you @kglad for giving me the link. At least now I am informed about additional functionality and benefits.

 

I still wonder though, why Adobe didn't mention any of this in the e-mail. Or at least put a link in there for further reading. I would have felt appreciated and seen. The way they put it I felt like an insignificant number in their "customer stock". To me it seems like a little affort with huge impact on both sides. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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there are so many things i wish adobe would do...

 

i constantly have to remind myself that it's not my fault that adobe does what it does, (but i still want to defend adobe when it's attacked).

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Agreed. Feel the same. That is why I took a leap and introduced the concept of "Trust Thermocline". Adobe is messing with it and I really want to avoid the outcome.

 

Enjoy your day! And thank you for the exchange. I apprechiate that. 👋🏼

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you're welcome, and happy new year!

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Aug 03, 2024 Aug 03, 2024

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I can't find any place to make this suggestion so I'm going to post here -- probably won't do any good but I'm posting just the same. I wish that Adobe would have a plan price for seniors. I worked 45 years in the graphics/prepress area, for 30 of those years I used Pagemaker then Indesign, Photoshop and Illustrator (primarily). I cannot imagine not having these programs -- they were like an extension of myself.  
I am 68 years now and every price increase hurts. I do very little for profit any longer, a resume or a newsletter here and there, less than $500 per year. But I do a lot of non-profit stuff -- I am active in the animal rescue community... I've done calendars for multiple groups, edited photos to place on Petfinder, set up pages for auction programs -- the list is endless. I love doing these things. I still love using the software. But it is approaching the point of being something I can't afford, even if I look at it as entertainment.
Many other companies have senior discounts -- Adobe should have one, similar to the education fees.

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Dear Judy, I can relate to that. Thank you for sharing. I hope, it will get the attention your comment deserves.
Enjoy the many little design problems with wich you help others (men and animal alike) to strive. 👋🏼

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