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June 21, 2014
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After Effects CC 2014 - removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters - WHY !?

  • June 21, 2014
  • 23 replies
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While reading the features of AfterEffects CC2014, I noticed the following:

"removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters from After Effects"

THAT IS IS REDICULOUS!!

NO FLV !?!?
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT USERS TO IMPORT INTO FLASH ??
IF no FLV export is available under After Effects CC 2014, there is NO WAY to EMBED an flv into flash !! (Linking is NOT always what is wanted!!)


NO H264 !?!?!
HAVE YOU GONE CRAZY ?!!?!?

YOU BREAK WORKFLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT IS REDICULOUS!!!


Any chance of restoring such features so that it makes updating to it worthwhile ?

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    Correct answer Todd_Kopriva

    added my post to that thread as well...

    Hope there is an official response to this issue that would justify wether we should upgrade at all...


    See this for an explanation for the change regarding H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV and for the recommend workflow:

    using Adobe Media Encoder to create H.264, MPEG-2, and WMV videos from After Effects

    See this for an explanation for the change regarding FLV and F4V and for the recommended workflow:

    removal of FLV and F4V export features from Adobe Media Encoder, After Effects, and Premiere Pro

    23 replies

    chaosgamestudio_com_blog_
    Participant
    August 10, 2015

    As a senior developer in one of biggest online gaming company in this world, i cant understand this decision totally.

    chrisk12073495
    Participant
    May 14, 2015

    Awful idea Adobe. I too send off  mp4 reviews constantly.

    Media Encoder is sluggish and isn't providing me with a fast streamline way to export files out quickly. Please help

    Participant
    April 20, 2015

    Dear members of the ADOBE,

    I am deaf, I am from Brazil.

    I ask you, who has respect for we want to use are H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV and F4V. Because these are the best sizes.

    I did not like who (Adobe organizers) take the flv, H.264, f4v, wmv.

    Will be updated as before the version for MAC and Windows ...

    I wait for your answer.

    Thank you for your attention,

    Fernando "HougHzinhuuu" Ferreira

    Known Participant
    January 27, 2015

    Agree - this is horrible. On a tight deadline on a new project using Flash, go to export FLV - cant. Yeah, thats helping my workflow.

    And now, I have launched the previous version of AME - with FLV, and I can't import the comp into its render queue. Blood boiling.

    N7R
    Participant
    December 27, 2014

    I agree with the OP,

    The problem is Adobe Media Encoder doesn't even work for H.264 in relation to exported AE comps! That is the real annoying and frustrating thing. When I export my after effects comp to render in AME (because I can no longer do H.264 properly in AE now) AME does not even export the videos correctly every time. And no, it is not my pc causing the issue or some weird settings, AME is just broke. It can't get the audio tracks correct and mutes stuff it shouldn't. It's a known bug with AME and it's very frustrating having to jump loopholes to try and get a simple MP4 video rendered when AE was perfectly capable of doing it in CS3, CS4, CS5, CS6, and so on.

    I KNOW it's a AME+AE issue because if I import the raw 2 hour+ video and encode it to mp4 it has audio, but if I want to do any effects in after effects and use a comp to render to AME audio is muted. The real kicker is if I use the depreciated quicktime codecs in AE CC the audio is quite fine. So why should I be forced to use AME when it can't even import my AE comps correctly?

    Community Expert
    December 27, 2014

    N7R, I'm not sure what is going on with your system but I encode H.264 every day from AE comps. I have been using AME for 95% of my rendering since Dynamic Link made this possible. It chugs away while I continue to work on AE so I'm spending very little of my day waiting for renders. I have never had the AME not add audio to a clip.

    Make sure you look at the encoding settings. Make sure you review the documentation so that you are using the proper workflow.

    N7R
    Participant
    December 27, 2014

    The problem I have found is AME cannot render correctly when an AE comp is over an hour long. The audio begins to get cut off. If I have video shorter than an hour it's ok but anything longer this issue persists. I've found a lot of similar threads on this topic as well and it's the same exact issue I have with AME. So basically I cannot use AME at all for any video longer than an hour or I lose part of the audio unfortunately. Hopefully this bug in AME is fixed eventually, it really makes workflow hard when I have to find workarounds because I program can't render correctly.

    Here is one of the threads describing the AME issue: Large video encode - only one hour of audio

    Known Participant
    December 4, 2014

    Cool, Thanks w3r! I'll have to try this. I'll still miss the WMV format though since PowerPoint doesn't support Quicktime . For all the perplexing and awful decisions Microsoft makes, WMV is actually a great format - tiny file sizes, looks almost loss-less, and widely supported - at least in the media spaces I need in my work.

    w3r
    Participant
    November 30, 2014

    There is a way to do this... Render as MOV, Using Quicktime settings: H264, Audio AAC, Quality 10, limite the KB/s as you wish... Once rendered, rename the file from MOV to MP4, will still work on gadgets, smartphones, etc...

    Known Participant
    November 26, 2014

    To date I've primarily been a Photoshop user and have dealt with years of mystifying UX and workflow changes, features that are useless to me added, and critical ones taken away (I'm looking at you Bridge, you worthless piece of garbage).  Then, to add insult to injury, Adobe forum mods telling me I'm doing it wrong and should be jumping through more hoops to achieve the same results. Now, with AE becoming a bigger part of my work, I am sad to find, that the same culture of disconnected arrogance and myopia prevails on the AE dev team.

    "Oh um user, you really want to be going through AME, because um technically speaking there have been many problems with the H.264 and MPEG-2 exporters in After Effects"

    Oh really? Tell me more about my job. Tell me about my experiences exporting these formats directly from AE. Tell me how my client views my content, is it on a Mac, or a PC? Maybe it's on his phone, or her iPad. What kind of phone is it though? Tell me at what point in my process it's ideal to render. Tell me about other tasks I'm performing. Tell me about the resolution and the bit-rate my files should play at. Tell me the final application I will be using the footage. Probably broadcast right? Or is it web? Or is it PowerPoint? Wait, what if there is no final output? What if it's just pre-vis for some other application?

    Tell me how to win over my clients; what's the correct method of presentation to engage them most impactfully? Tell me about how much time I have to render massive video files. Is it more time efficient due to the nature of my composite to render once because my file is super shallow and will render quickly or is it more efficient to render twice because my file is extremely complex with hundreds of layers?

    That the deprecated formats were hidden away in the preferences menu is dumb and annoying. That this same preference would then be removed is despicable and petty and is further confirmation that Adobe has contempt for me as a user.

    Participant
    October 30, 2014

    I think there's a lot of people who encode straight to h.264 from AE and a bunch of people using FLV. I can't understand that you, Adobe, took these encode option away from AE and justify this by saying "we didn't have time for it". You can see by the view count of this thread how many people this has affected and not in a good way.

    I really don't like the fact that I have to encode to an intermediate format which takes space and time to sort out afterwards, when doing previews for clients.I don't like the roundabout to the goal. I would prefer to get the result I was after the first time. This is totally inconvenient for me. I put out tens of previews a day and this is really hurting my turnover time.

    And I really don't like the fact that now if I ever need to use FLV video in some project, well... I can't. Did AME really change that much internally from the last version that you HAD to take FLV export away, or was there another reason? I don't get it.

    Please add the h.264 render option back to AE. And you should really keep some form of FLV export somewhere in the package, or you risk losing some customers.

    foughtthelaw
    Inspiring
    October 27, 2014

    For transparency wouldn't you guys just use a png sequences? I'm somewhat surprised to even hear that people still use flash at all but as far back as 2008 I had developers telling me to avoid flv or f4v files at all costs and to instead use png files.