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October 3, 2021
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Is it better to use vector or raster images for shapes with gradients?

  • October 3, 2021
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Hi everyone?

I recently created a scene that looks like a vector images, but I produced it in photoshop.

my thinking was AE is raster, so work in raster.

but I noticed that the slight gradients caused a lot of colour banding.

Does anyone know if using vector files (Illustrator) would improve this?

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Mylenium
Legend
October 3, 2021

MPEG 4 footage has an effective depth of 7 bit, so there is nothing you can do. It will always create bands as soon as you encode it, no matter how you treat it otherwise. And your artwork really has all the "Don't do this with compressed footage!" things in it - large uniformly colored areas or gradients spanning and exceeding the maximum 1024 discreet colors an 8 bit gradient can have with that range further being decreased due to the chroma undersampling as described. Unless you realyl completely rethink the design, there is realyl nothing you can do, even more so with 4k where even the tiniest glitch will be visible. You could probably get a reasonably decent encode if you settle on "just" HD, but anything beyond that is simply stretching the technical limits.

 

Mylenium

Mylenium
Legend
October 3, 2021

Nothing to do with vector vs. raster. This entirely depends on the project bit depth and that of the artwork, respectively. Parametric gradients created in AE can look just as band-y in 8bpc as can imported artwork and that kind of is the point: Importing AI artwork may not solve anything if you don't change your other workflows or adapt the designs to minimize banding. since you have not provided any actual info about your artwork or a screenshot we can't advise on how to improve things.

 

Mylenium

Participant
October 3, 2021

Thanks Mylenium,

don't know if you can help with a Premier Pro follow up but I rendered the AE file as QuickTime (attached) and it came out perfect.

 but then I drop it Premier Pro - I'm trying to render for YouTube (4K) but pretty much most settings I've tried are still getting banding. The best I've tried creates HUGE file sizes, so wondered if there were any suggestions.

Community Expert
October 4, 2021

A little noise or film grain will help hide banding. When you only have 256 levels of any color to work with, and your gradient uses only 8 or 10 of those values across a 4K frame, you are going to get banding. Noise will help hide it.