Show Deprecated Formats in Output Module Settings don't appear in my output option!

What all others have said. Please give us our workflow back, this clunky export to AME is a royal pain. It has locked up my computer once, not opened AME another time and on several tries has opened AME but then the comp I chose to Export out to AME didn't show up in AME's queue.

I'm also a little upset that you admit that AME, which you want us to use, has issues.  You have to give us an even clunkier work around for your product producing darker end video.

I did a few comparison tests.  A 6 second piece with some layers and effects. Ran it through CC and CC 2014. AE & Encoder.   Here are the results.

ADOBE • Export Comparisons

6 Second Timeline – 1080p – 29.97

Encoder CC2014 - H.264 - VBR 2 Pass  8/20  – 16 Min render - 

Much Darker than AE - Enormous compression artifacting -  Looks like crap.  4 mb file size

After Effects CC2014 - H.264 Quicktime 100% - 4 minutes –

Color is OK - Much compression artifacting -  88mbs!!!

***After Effects - CC - Using Main Concept Deprecated H.264 Format – 6 mins -  VBR 2 Pass 6/12 –

Color EXACTLY what I see in After Effects – Barely noticable compression – 4.5 mbs

Encoder CC2014 - H.264 – Apple iPad – VBR 2 – 5/6 -  29.5  Min render - 

Much Darker than AE – Marginally better compression artifacting then first Encoder Test - Looks like crap.  6 mb file size

ADOBE RECOMMENDED APPROACH:

AE CC 2014 Render – Losseless Quicktime – 4.75 minute Render – Looks Perfect. 740mb

ENCODER CC 2014 RENDER – .5 minute render - H.264 – VBR 2 Pass 8/12 –

Color is spot on – Compression artifacting is still significant.  6 MB file

ENCODER CC 2014 RENDER v2 – .5 minute render - H.264 – VBR 2 Pass 12/20 –

Color is spot on – Compression artifacting is Much better but still not as good as CC Deprecated Main Concept.  10 MB file. Can’t send via e-mail.

BOTTOM LINE RESULTS

Main Concept Deprecated H.264 creates a much higher quality H.264 in less time and a smaller file format that can be sent by email to clients.

Directly rendering H.264 thru Encoder is useless. Color and contrast shift is enormous. Compression is horrible.  File sizes are much larger.

ADOBE WORKAROUND - Add an extra minute or two to jump through the hoops of having to render out a Losseless through AE, bring that into Encoder….  Takes a minute or so longer on a 6 sec piece. Longer pieces will be exponentially longer render times.

Final image quality still isn’t as good as the CC Deprecated H.264 even at high VBR.  Plus the files are larger.

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With all due respect…  Please put Main Concept format back into AE.  It is a real pain to have do the extra workaround for a lesser quality output.  And it just doesn't make sense.

Adding multiple steps to the rendering process completely contradicts the new smooth workflow Adobe seems so proud of. SMH

All of my exports are coming up darker using AME. Never had this problem rendering out of After Effects. Has anyone experimented with the AME H.264 presets?

Adobe: Please do not revert this workflow. The programming reasons are sound, the workflow from AE to AME is both efficient and proper for my business and my clients; I only need compressed clips for approvals and demos. I can do that easily and quickly using AME.

Concentrate on the stuff in AE that improves how my effects are edited and designed.

I also tried to voice up my voice on this (After Effects CC 2014 - removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters - WHY !?)

NOT being able to render out to FLV from AE CC 2014 at all, provides NO reason of updating...

There is NO format left to be used to EMBED video INTO FLASH!!!!

If one updates to new version, demanding of still keeping the old one is simply REDICULOUS!!!

WHY on earth this was decided? WHAT weird mind thought of this !!?!?

That is REDICULOUS!!

Should we expect or should we abandon the whole idea of updating to CC 2014 at all!?!?

An official response to this would be REALLY appreciated.

I would respond to Mr. Kopriva that I expect your team to be expert at all things AE is capable of. Period. I would also respond, if you're so bad at codecs then why do you render at all. Don't just cut some codecs and cry ignorance. I require you to be better than that. I PAY for you to be better than that.

I have no new info to add, but wanted to make sure another voice is heard on this issue. I don't need another application open, taking up system resources and I don't need to use an app that take WAY LONGER to dump out an mp4. I don't need that. I don't.

This is now added to a long list of, what are you thinking Adobe?! Your illustrator/AE import sucks. And software design is more and more being done in IA and not in PS. But what do I know? I just work for one of the largest software developers on the planet. And the products I build motion for are only used by BILLIONS of people.

Fix this please.

Thank you.

Just noticed the same. My guess is they gave us a transition period with CC that still had the formats added if you dug to get to the preference checkbox, and now for CC 2014 they completely ripped it away from us and we have to use AME instead. I also avoided using AME because it seemed to take longer, would crash sometimes, etc. Overall it just seemed like an unnecessary hassle when I was perfectly happy with the results I was getting straight out of AE.

Edit: Confirmed via bottom of this page :

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removal of H.264, MPEG-2, WMV, FLV, F4V, and SWF exporters from After Effects

To export to final delivery formats such as MPEG-2, H.264, and WMV, use Adobe Media Encoder. You can either add compositions directly to the Adobe Media Encoder encoding queue (Composition > Add To Adobe Media Encoder Queue) or render and export a lossless master file directly from After Effects that Adobe Media Encoder picks up from a watch folder to encode to various final delivery formats.

The SWF, FLV, and F4V exporters were removed because the recommended workflow for creating movies that play in Flash Player is to create an H.264 video using Adobe Media Encoder and then use Flash Professional to link or embed that video in a SWF container"

I'd just come to here to bring up the same point.

Why is it that you are forcing us to go through Media Encoder just to create an MP4?

I do not need a super high quality version to show a work-in-progress to a client. Going through ME is slower and buggier. I often find that after updating a comp in AE and duplicating the output in ME, ME renders out the comp without the updates in. This is not a good workflow. Please reconsider at least giving us the option of outputting directly out of AE.

If it's not broken, don't try to fix it.