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Is anyone smart enough to know how to avoid duplicate sub-keywords?

Engaged ,
Aug 08, 2023 Aug 08, 2023

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Is anyone smart enough to know how to avoid duplicate sub-keywords? I am not. I had made phylogenetic keywords originally, in the form, Diptera (FLIES).  I found out, importing to my website, that the proper separation is with commas, and () causes problems.  So I decided to rename to Diptera, FLIES,

 

This is an Order of Insects, and there are Families, Subfamilies and Tribes below this. And there are parents, Arthropods and Insects above.  I was first just trying to work on one family of Bee Flies, Bombyllidae, whose format I thus changed.  But then I found when I checked one of the subkeywords, the same one in the older one would also check.  Likewise with uncheck.  I spent hours, trying to view all the subkeywords and starting over, unchecking all the levels but they still came duplicated.  that when I then went to the parent keyword Diptera and did the same thing, but it made no difference except creating another duplicate of Bee flies in the new format.  Then I selected all the images in the family folder and selected every level and uncheck all the way up to Arthropods. I deleted all levels of duplicate keywords. I I closed and reopened the Bridge and tried again, all to no avail. I had also tried deleting both instances of a subkeyword in the old and new keywords and then putting back in the new and checking.  The old came back with all the levels.. I changed the preference to not apply parents, but the subkeyword still duplicates.keyword dupes.jpgexpand image

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Oct 01, 2023 Oct 01, 2023

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Thanks for all your help.  I am going through the named beetles folder to choose those with bad dates and copying to the test folder.  This has some of the most so altered.

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Oct 01, 2023 Oct 01, 2023

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Definitely. I went through the named beetle folder and copied 322 with bad dates to the test folder and it did all. Strange how the xmps which hold the data for RAW files are ignored but the actual RAW files they refer to are changed, just as in the exporter I used originally.  

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Oct 01, 2023 Oct 01, 2023

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That's because the XMP file doesn't have any tags of it's own. Yes, the content (xml text) in the XMP is changed, but the file doesn't have embedded metadata like the image file does. Exiftool knows to link the RAW and XMP files by filename and writes the proper data to the XMP file.

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Oct 01, 2023 Oct 01, 2023

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@robirdman1 

 

Glad you got there!

 

 I strongly recommend that you re-read all of the previous instructions and links again as they will hopefully make more sense now that you have some experience.

 

The main thing is that you can now fix your files and also have a powerful new tool for reporting, adding and removing metadata.

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Oct 04, 2023 Oct 04, 2023

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Since I thought I updated all dates and changed all () in the SORT folder and subfolders, I've been busy adding corrected ones to my website and then moving to their phylogenetic folders. I'd find anomalies such as some NEFs had dates, keywords and descriptions but the rest of the metadata, location etc was gone.  Strange as it was in my access database where metadata was exported before any tiff making or subsequent processing.  Not many and added back data from nearby files which had the same info.  Also in folders I thought had all corrected dates, and didn't need the exiftool, there were outliers mixed that had apparently been processed differently.  this is because there was a lot of moving files after getting IDs and put in NAMED subfoldrs. Then I discovered that the NAMED grasshopper folder files all still had the () format.

So I removed the old export/import and downloaded the new circumscribed one and followed the directions and it was much quicker without all the extra fields and it worked great. Thanks, so much!

I still have a lot of NAMED folder stuff to move before getting to the really big stage of changing the metadata format in the phylogenetic folders where tens of thousands of images are in their essential archive locations, and still not sure how the keyword structure will be reconstituted so that all these new format keywords are largely parentless in regard to the order of the previous phylogenetic scheme.  Once I take care of most of the NAMED folder duties, I'll take a look at a smaller Order without many subkeywords to start with.

 

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Oct 13, 2023 Oct 13, 2023

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Due to the fact that one of my websites is too large and can't be backed up, I've been deleting hundreds of images and putting on my other site where size isn't a problem.  But to get as many as possible off, I've been choosing the larger families instead of small ones.  I have found that since the exporter results in a lot of parentless keywords that then have to be moved, one by one from the bottom in Other Keywords to the parent folder, it has been better to rename the parent in keywords, with all members selected from using () to comma.  This has worked well when a subfolder also has () which is also changed with after unselecting all and then selecting those with the comma format and the original () then is deletable.  But I'm having a big problem with subfolders below this, such as Tribes in Subfamilym which are just one word, with no common name, such as Saperdini in Lamiinae in Cerambycidae.  I find all those genera that use that keyword, and uncheck them. Then I delete the subkeyword, which is both places, I add it back to only the comma format parent.  And rising from the dead, it reappears in the old place.  Then I selected all of the parent Laminae with () and made sure there were none left with that keyword.  Deleted that parent with all its subkeywords which were also deselected and deleted.  I select a genus that would use that keyword and check in the new version and both the old version and its parent reappear.  Just can't get rid of the duplicate.

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