Adobe, Linux Support, and the Linux Foundation.

[gai.ra.III]

While generally I've only lurked the Adobe forums I've finally worked up guts to post this. I also know that about every 1-2 months this question is asked but I think it deserves a another go around.

My premises is this:

Adobe joined the Linux Foundation in 2008 for a focus on Linux for Web 2.0  Applications like Adobe® Flash® Player and Adobe AIR™. Currently Adobe holds a silver membership status with the Linux Foundation. So why in the world do they not have any Creative Cloud Programs available in Linux without the need for WINE and other such workarounds. I think it's a sucky move to support the Linux Foundation and use Linux in the back-end while not doing anything to support actual Linux users who have for at least a decade requested Adobe desktop products on Linux. Sure it's going to take a lot of manpower, financial resources, etc. But to truly support Linux and the Linux Foundation I think it's necessary that y'all do make things like Photoshop and Lightroom available for the Linux desktop. In any regards the wider Linux community would most likely help with testing and debugging programs. We're used to it.

[Was DYP]

With the source code released and now out there you may get your wish. But it won't be from Adobe.

[sunnybubblegum]

@Was DYP, What do you mean?

[Ilya3L]

Agreed here. Would love to use Photoshop, Lightroom, Illustrator, Premiere and After Effects on Linux. Native support for Adobe software is the only thing that keeps me on Windows now. So, dear Adobe, what should I do to make you port Creative Cloud on Linux?

[sunnybubblegum]

Hey, check out my thread on the Ubuntu Forums regarding thoughts on the Adobe Creative Cloud/Suite for Linux!

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190146

[mimbik]

Hello, same info from me.

I have many friends in design community and everyone would like to use something different from windows. Adobe is a major player that still stops us from full OS migration. I had PC, a MacBook Pro and I really liked it for a while. But it was 2007 version with hardware bug on motherboard. It is not possible to work on it anymore, the only solution is to buy a Mac Pro today. Oh, yeah, I have similar PC now for a half price. Nevertheless I considered this OSX. I still need nvidia CUDA video card and a flagship Mac Pro offers only ATI. No solution without spending $$$$ for me. The Linux will save us.

I understand that software development is a difficult task but let's take a look for major players in VFX industry. "The Foundry" origins are on Linux. Probably Weta Digital works on Linux (Lord of the Rings). Side Effects and their Houdini 3D package is available for Win, OSX and Linux. Do you understand what I mean? It is the OS that is stable and will not ruin your hard work. Linux is for serious tasks. Why there is still no big support?
Yeah, because of money and little knowledge. Is the Adobe not big enough for this challenge or too lazy?

Win 7 is good for simple things but when you have a huge amount of files and something goes wrong.. you will go mad.

[Seth Tenenbaum]

Having native CC on Linux would be really useful to the design and engineering pipeline for modern software architecture. 

Adobe makes Acrobat for Linux, so it shouldn't be _that_ difficult to get a team to port the rest of their internal sdk over. 

[excited_Genie16B8]

Adobe makes Acrobat for Linux, so it shouldn't be _that_ difficult to get a team to port the rest of their internal sdk over. 

  That's too funy!

[mytaxsite]

They already do for Unix!!!! It is called Adobe Creative Cloud for Mac OS.

[mimbik]

+ 10. Perfect summary. I totally agree. Windows market is larger only because of huge amount of office workers. Yeah, big cities, big buildings. They even have no choice. And eg. Adobe (producer of software for professionals) makes decisions based on market of non-professionals. It is ridiculous!!

[Topplestack]

I agree. Even Windows has moved more towards the novice and more away from the professional. The more focused on things like web development I become, the more I need a Linux system and the less Windows works for me. Yes, I have a Mac, but they are incredibly expensive just to get access to a quazi Unix system.

I think if a lot of companies decided to start developing for Linux, they would surprised at the number of people who would be stwitching from the big 2.

[Vadym]

I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 x64, wine 1.7.13

I working on it Adobe Muse

and Adobe Edge Reflow

But I need to update the installation files ".exe" (or .msi).

Please give links to files. 

Because CreativeCloudSet-Up.exe not installed on the server.  

Or let the installation file CreativeCloudSet-Up.exe 

because it tries to connect to the server and it does not work.

[Xeon64]

Photoshop 7 works perfectly with Wine. Adobe killed Wine use when they added all the anti-piracy features to their software. It started with CS.

[aarontyree]

Ive spent the last several days reading up on this issue. I have been considering moving all of my photo workflow to Lightroom and Photoshop.

After seeing that this thread has been viewed 50,000 times, and that thousands upon thousands of people have shown serious interest in buying and using Adobe products on Linux, I can only come to one conclusion...

If Adobe is willing to turn down 6 figures monthly, it means that they stand to gain something by doing so. Ive heard them say that there is no profit in it, that its to hard to do, etc etc. None of this is true. There are millions of dollars a year in potential income being intentionally ignored. They have not been indifferent, they have actively opposed the use of Linux and open source software. Even when the community at large made it possible to use Adobe CC by writing the software that they wouldnt, they not only didnt support it, they actively undermined the functionality of it.

There is something going on behind the scenes that Adobe is not being forthcoming about. I believe that if we looked hard enough, we would find out what Adobe is actually gaining by actively undermining Linux operating systems, and perhaps who is making it worth their while.

[Xeon64]

I can tell you why they won't. It is is not what they are gaining by not supporting Linux. It is what they will lose by supporting it.  The person behind the curtain is Microsoft and Apple. If Adobe supports Linux Apple and MS will go out of there way to hurt Adobe. Ex. Not givening them access to platform development tools, prereleases, and more. It is Appler and MS that do this to software developers. Microsoft threatened Dell years back for selling Dell machines with Ubuntu. Dell was promoting Ubuntu. MS was going to pull some of its support to Dell if they continued.

[TZiady]

Yep, the big boys will always bully everyone. The koolaid of Apple and the

spread of Micro$loth has always been a hindrance to free software

development everywhere. In this case, I don't think it is MS; but largely

Apple. Except for the Koolaid kids, Apple's only real power still lies in

graphic development and manipulation. They are pretty much useless for

anything else other than an expensive web browser that doesn't even work

that well.

Oh well, Adobe's loss. I put together a Win 8 box today to do somethings

and am coping the image and throwing it on a stateless drive and putting it

in a drawer.

Bye bye Adobe...Gimp, here I comes. LOL..

[travis_00]

I have gradually been transitioning over to opensource (Linux, Wordpress) products the last few years; for many reasons that are irrelevant to this post.  Interestingly, I've noticed I actually spend more on software now with Linux and Wordpress than I ever have and I am totally fine with it.  I have been using Microsoft's office cloud software and have been relatively impressed.  I needed to use InDesign for a specific client and wondered onto Adobe's site (After years of being away) and was very interested in using their software again.  Signed up for the free-trial CC with intent of buying, but sadly it is apparent Adobe is being leveraged against the inevitable future that is Linux.

Not really any skin off my back, I will continue to evolve with the future of computing and utilize the infinite resources of the open source community.  Although I will shed a tear when Adobe finally hits the ground (From an obvious free fall) and is gone forever.  I have used their products for most of my life.  If anyone from Adobe really cares, think about who's team you want to be on.  Do you want to be a pawn for a scrambling to be relevant company, like Microsoft/Apple, or do you want to be the leader of the creative/ambitious/future-key-holders of tomorrow?

[iowane2012]

I'm one of those who use Windows ONLY to run Creative Cloud. I bet there are a lot more of us out there. The problem is, financially would Adobe gain anything from porting to Linux? Meaning, would there be any new users of Creative Cloud if it were ported to Linux? Sure, I would be grateful as all get out, but can anyone make the argument to Adobe that it would be of financial benefit? If the only thing that happens is that a bunch of Windows users switch to Linux, Adobe doesn't really get anything at all. Though I do have to wonder if it would really be all that difficult to port from Mac to Linux....

[tahamoussa]

STOP paying Adobe until they make a Linux edition of CC
I don't have to pay for Windows and  for Adobe to use it

It is not logic or fair to switch to an OS that I don't want just to use a software !!

Adobe Creative Cloud Linux (Ubuntu) User Walkout scheduled for June 06, 2014

[mytaxsite]

If you stop making payments then your products will stop working then how are you going to do things that you were doing with Adobe products? there are no alternatives and that is why people are still using Adobe Cretive Cloud Products.

You really need to be realistic. Are you running your own business? If so then you should know that you have to keep creating revenue streams by different means and wasting time on Linux products isn't one of the means to achieve this.

Hope this helps you to remain sane for some time to come.

Good luck.

[Ilya3L]

Linux provides a reliable stable and predictable platform with usable environment (unlike Windows 8 for example) but many users are binded to Windows as they are binded to the Adobe platform. For them the only reason not to use Linux is absence of native support for Photoshop, Premiere, After Effects e.t.c.

[cleanmrt]

Is there any new development or press release on Adobe Creative Cloud for Linux/Ubuntu? I am getting to the point where I will have no choice but to stop supporting Adobe, and will enact company wide policy change to stop using Adobe software because of the inconvenience it poses not having it for Linux/Ubuntu.

I will gladly pay for Adobe programs to be ported over to Linux. I will gladly DONATE LARGE SUMS OF MONEY towards the coding of this project. There are so many people here willing to do the same. Tell us you are pursuing it for real, send us a donate button and tell us how much money we must raise to make it happen, and we will far exceed that goal.

[cleanmrt]

Is there any new development or press release on Adobe Creative Cloud for Linux/Ubuntu? I am getting to the point where I will have no choice but to stop supporting Adobe, and will enact company wide policy change to stop using Adobe software because of the inconvenience it poses not having it for Linux/Ubuntu.

I will gladly pay for Adobe programs to be ported over to Linux. I will gladly DONATE LARGE SUMS OF MONEY towards the coding of this project. There are so many people here willing to do the same. Tell us you are pursuing it for real, send us a donate button and tell us how much money we must raise to make it happen, and we will far exceed that goal.

[Vadym]

If you are more important the OS. Certainly refuse.

Who is more important Adobe products they refuse OS.

If you are willing to invest money. Invest in Wine, they will do so Adobe products worked well.

[mytaxsite]

No there is no further development or press release and no-one here was expecting one in the near future.

For the peace of your mind and for everybody using Linux OS, please make a note that there won't be any Adobe products or Microsoft Products for Linux OS. It is in your interest to find alternatives or start using Windows or Apple Mac.

DELL computers have very good deals on new desktops and laptops and people should buy them befre it is too late.

Good luck.

[Ilya3L]

There are actual Microsoft products for Linux - starting from most common used Skype to the tools Microsoft keeps for the internal use. So in spite of you are an MVP you are quite wrong. There are some adobe products for Linux as well, but not Creative Cloud.