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Kenoshirt
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February 28, 2016
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Adobe, your products suck

  • February 28, 2016
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I have used Adobe products since Illustrator 88. Since then, each successive release of the top 3: Photoshop, Illustrator, and later on, InDesign has become more bloated, buggy, slow and frustrating to use than the previous version. Unfortunately Adobe is the de facto standard for creative professionals and we are at their mercy. Note I am currently using current CC applications in my workflow on a brand-spanking-new hyper-fast Mac tower.

Take Illustrator, for instance. I've lost count of the times I see a spinning beachball and have to wait for a few seconds just to select and move a square. With NO OTHER SHAPES in a document. A square. Seriously Adobe? Illustrator also takes an inordinate amount of time to save a file to disk that's only a few hundred K in size. I'd expect a 1.5 GB file to take a few moments, but a few hundred K?

Illustrator is also prone to crashing daily. Sometimes more than once. Or failing to open a simple file with a "not enough memory" error. What, 64GB of RAM isn't enough? I didn't realize today's computers choked on 8MB vector files.

I have time to write this post because I'm currently waiting for Illustrator to launch in "Safe" mode. It's been stuck on "Diagnostic Test 15 Checking Preferences..." for the last 45 minutes. I suspect it's locked up and I'll have to Force-Quit it and relaunch. Only to continue to get stuck in diagnostic mode. Thanks for a buggy diagnostic mode, Adobe! You're really swinging' for the fences!

If the creative professional space wasn't so Adobe-dependent I would dump it in favor of some of the alternate, and better, options out there.

Oh yeah, Creative Cloud SUCKS! I don't want every damned color I select and shape I paste to become a library object! Let us turn off the "features" we don't think are necessary for our workflow!

Back to *trying* to work on a file to meet a Monday deadline...

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Inspiring
April 6, 2017

From the outside looking in, I see many, many more user complaints since CC started vs. the boxed versions. Seems like CS4 was the last rock solid version. 

Eternal Warrior
Inspiring
April 6, 2017

I know I'm clearly the only one here who hasn't had real problems with adobe.... But truthfully aside from trying to run on a very low spec PC doing somewhat intensive work I haven't.

I'm not convinced of the Mac promise these days.. TBH... you can get a much much better rig going anything but Mac for a lot less money.

For adobe products its better to focus on using SSD drives and good processors than lots of RAM...

I'm not going to say RAM doesn't help but I would rather have a killer processor and 16 GB RAM than the other way around.

I would not waste the money on anything but SSD to run the OS and adobe programmes.

But this is just my experience.

rcraighead
Legend
October 20, 2017

Eternal,

Just curious, what version of Illustrator did you learn on? It's possible you don't see the issues many of us are struggling with because you are familiar with only recent versions of Adobe CC. In "vintage" CS versions I was much more efficient and productive. Some tools have become more cumbersome and other tools have actually LOST functionality in CC versions.

Ton Frederiks
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 27, 2017

Update:

Adobe Illustrator > New Document

I have an 8 foot by 3 foot sign so to set it up in inches, I type "8 * 12" for the width. Illustrator calculates this as ".02 inches". If I do this with the rectangle tool, it works properly.


herb4  wrote

Adobe Illustrator > New Document

I have an 8 foot by 3 foot sign so to set it up in inches, I type "8 * 12" for the width. Illustrator calculates this as ".02 inches".

Update to the latest version to have calculations work in New Document dialog.

grauenwölfe
Inspiring
March 25, 2016

Agreed, agreed, you have no idea how much this is agreed. Adobe has obviously been infested with marketing execs who see the software not as a professional product or tool anymore but as a platform to push more products. The amount of bloat that Adobe installs is staggering. Dozens of startup and background processes running continually wether any Adobe apps are running or not. Processes that are manually killed through the OS but magically reopen, the kind of behavior that clealy defines malware and adware.

The software programming is at an all-time low and it simply DOES NOT matter what state-of-the-art technology it's run on, it's going to be slow, glitchy, buggy, and inefficient. The CC Desktop app is the biggest sack of sh*t to ever be passed of as legit software. If it bothers to work right it's main focus is writing logs and tracking user data. Just miserable that this is what Adobe has decided to do with all the resources available to them.

Their website is decidedly the worst example of a website I know of. Government websites are easier to use and navigate than this bottomless pit of endless links that only lead you in circles.

The support is so bad it really isn't even worth mentioning anymore.

Have to face it, this is what you get with a monopolized segment of an industry. They bought all the competion out. They just simply don't have to give a sh*t anymore and so they've chosen not to.

Kenoshirt
Kenoshirt작성자
Participant
March 25, 2016

1000% agreed. If their software wasn't the standard I'd drop it all like dirty shirt. In fact, I'm looking into Sketchapp as an Illustrator replacement. For $99 it's current feature set it pretty slick and super fast and can save as EPS, PDF, SVG, Ect. Just not ai. Anytime I don't have to load an Adobe product is totally worth it. In fact, I think Sketchpad is picking up quite a bit of notoriety in the design world. One can only hope.

Peace.

Kenoshirt
Kenoshirt작성자
Participant
March 25, 2016

*Sketchapp, not Sketchpad. Auto-correct.

Inspiring
February 29, 2016

I feel your pain,

different problems, but same - been onboard with adobe for so long and can't believe the apps are still so buggy - annoyance.

They have been peddling the same piece of software for decades, and haven't stopped to think it might be worth making it work really well rather than adding loads of chaff every few months.

All i want are the tools from CS4 ish, but running nicely on my new hardware.

I want the big bucks im spending on hardware to finally deliver on what they show you in a keynote performance, not a constant race to outpace the softwares ever increasing hunger for more RAM and Ghz.

im sure people will say, don't upgrade, and stick to the last working version, but i upgrade each time in the hope that they have fixed some issue, only to find they have added a handful of new problems, and introduced something so bad it makes me want to crack out the drawing board and Rotring Pens in despair - i'm looking at you Live Shapes!

Participant
February 29, 2016

OH THANK YOU Kenoshirt for this post. I have the exact same problem (only my RAM-memory is "only" 8 gig, but still): I'm working with a 664 kb file and the program still insits that there isn't enough memory... What the hey is going on? Im so bummed out and dissapointed in Adobe right now...

Rajashree Bhattacharya
Legend
February 29, 2016

I understand that you are very unhappy with the way Illustrator is working for you, moving to illustrator forum for experts opinion.

Regards

Rajashree