CC 2019 Apps Rubbish

So I'm back as the original poster.

It seems everyone's gone a bit off-track and this is turning in to a bit of a flaming war. Please let's all get back to matter in-hand and the useless pile of [inappropriate language removed by moderator] that Adobe has the cheek to put out and bill us for.

I spoke to their CS team and had most of the issues resolved. Most were down to their graphic card usage so had to turn all that crap off. However it seems now that Indesign has gone on hiatus and has become slower than a tortoise who's asleep!

It's becoming quite a bore now as even more so for customers to pay for developmental errors and [inappropriate language removed by moderator] !

I've been waiting since October on a Fix for Illustrator... Nothing... I thankfully found this thread. I have some illustrator files I need to update so I'm downgrading to 2018 CC. Illustrator 2019 is unusable for me, even with my brand new $3200 MBP....

AND IT RUNS LIKE  [inappropriate language removed by moderator] ! It also runs like  [inappropriate language removed by moderator] on our dev's PCs.

I'm uninstalling all of CC. I've been working out a strategy to migrate my company away from the need for Adobe. We only use adobe because some of our front-end developers have PC's and there is no version of Sketch for PC but there are some other viable PC options as far as opening and working with Sketch files goes... As for XD being a solution for that... LOLOLOL Too bad XD  [inappropriate language removed by moderator] up the colors when they come in from Sketch.

At this point Adobe isn't even innovating anymore, they are playing catch-up to everyone else. They are simply ripping off innovation from other companies and cramming as much of it as they can into their own apps... Which is the big problem. They just try to stuff this  [inappropriate language removed by moderator]  in there so they can be on par with Sketch or Affinity or any number of other software suites that are actually INNOVATING. This goes back to Macromedia acquisition. They decided to stop INNOVATING and start STEALING and CANNIBALIZING other software and their features when they acquired Macromedia... Then they EOL'd Fireworks... Which was the best solution Adobe had for Web Design...

Fireworks which could have been used to compete with SKETCH...

Since then they have just been bloating up and bloating up Photoshop... Need to do 3d? Photoshop can do it. Need to do vectors? Photoshop can do it. Photoshop can screen share to mobile (stolen from sketch and then removed cause it sucked). Photoshop has timelines... Photoshop can do a little bit of illustrator, after fx, flash, premier etc... Photoshop can do anything... (Part of the problem with Photoshop) And now it's a bloated beast that eats system resources as fast as you an add them... Hey ADOBE, how about optimizing your code and getting rid of your f'ing technical debt?

There are plenty of other options out there... I'm planning on migrating my company ($1,500/month in CC Licenses) to other, LESS EXPENSIVE, MORE PREDICTABLE and MORE STABLE solutions. We'll have to keep one CC license just so we can open up and deal with files that clients give us, but as an agency, our standard will no longer be Adobe. And to the fanboys who have been using Adobe since day one and will just want to flame me... Don't care... Wont' read it. Don't waste your time. I don't read replies to my post unless they are helpful so flame on... 

A new update was available for Illustrator today. I downloaded it with optimism, only to discover there are even more bugs than before! Still can't control the window size by dragging the bottom right handle without it going out of control. It selects the opposite of what I want it to. New font problems. Amazing!

Glad I'm not alone in this. I updated all my apps in Jan and for the life of me I wish I didn't. It's not so bad when I initially open InDesign, Illustrator etc., but heavens after an hour or two working in them, good luck! If I'm saving a file in one app, I can't even get to the other because it takes over and won't let me access any open Adobe app it until it's done saving.  And since I'm currently designing a 180+ page magazine, the hi-jinx never end! 

The only 'fix' I've found so far is to shut them all down (even THAT can take ages), wait a few and then come back in...buys me a couple hours of decent performance and oodles of sanity. LOL!  Another little helper is I try not to run more than one app at a time. Not ideal, but it saves me from hurling my computer off the balcony.

I'm still waiting for the update where we can CTRL/Select specific table rows like you do in, oh I dunno, WORD. O_o  It's great to have updates and all, but designers have been begging for this basic functionality for years and it goes ignored. Funny that.

2019 CC is probably one of the worst releases of After Effects. Highly unstable, nothing's optimized, the grid feature still has a bug, and nothing's really been addressed since it dropped.

Yes-

How is it that we are charged monthly for cloud software that is never quite "fixed." I've issue after issue with AI 2019. The app windows close or freeze. There still is no "CENTER" JUSTIFY icon — how hard is it?

That is a huge mistake!!! never ever use new adobe releases!!! usually they are often really broken. and they may stay broken for years!!

you have to read a lot on forums to make sure that they work before installing something new!

Just looked for a thread about this as I finally wanted to see if it was just me.

I didn't completely remove my old apps when upgrading to 2019, glad I didn't as the 2019 versions of the two apps I use the most (Photoshop and Premiere Pro) are dire compared to the 2018 versions. I've had them working side-by-side and will often just open the 2018 version but whenever I open a file it of course wants to use the 2019 version. I just spent 5 minutes trying to get transforming to behave itself and not lock the aspect ratio before realising I was using PS 2019 - of course it doesn't work! Premiere 2019 simply won't remember the layout of my workspace, it reverts every time I launch it. 2018 is absolutely fine.

I've now removed the 2019 apps entirely and gone back to solely using the 2018 versions - much happier!

Well that you can even get any of the 2019 apps to actually launch is somewhat of a mystery to me. In fact, I'm kind of jealous.  Every single "new" 2019 app does the same exact thing for me: It will (pretend to) load, get right up to the point of seeing the UI and then that fear evoking blue spinning circle for the "subscription" check just hangs on the screen. So, nothing at all will launch. Luckily I can still work with my 2018 apps because I've not updated them.

I've contacted Adobe numerous times and after them trying to "fix" the issue they finally admitted that they knew the bug existed and that their "technicians" will have it fixed in the next "update". Shall we hold our breath. If you are then secure your burial plot soon.

Although Adobe likes to keep it a secret and blame the problems on everything else but themselves, every user knows that since the launch of the mandatory "subscription" model there have been nothing but associated bugs and problems.

After 30 years of using PS I'm (just) about done with Adobe. Unfortunately changing a 30 year workflow is not as easy as uninstalling but after about 3 years of searching for alternatives I have found 1 definite and 1 "it might work" solution.

Premiere Pro skill sets are easily transferred to the FREE and AMAZING Davinci Resolve 15. I just finished my last PP project ever (hopefully). After Effects will be replaced with Black Magic Designs FREE Fusion 9

PS is a different story but I will be seriously checking out DxO PhotoLab 2 which incorporates Nik U point (which is a big part of my workflow) and it's only about $129 or $200 with absolutely no subscription fees!

So thankfully I am now down to 1 Adobe App which is PS and I am counting the days, hours, minutes and seconds...

I have given CC2019 a very genuine college try. I don't believe being stuck in the past, and don't believe in going backwards; but some of the changes made to the apps are beyond insane.

Techniques in Photoshop that used to take me seconds are now taking minutes, as I try to figure our WHY ON EARTH they were changed and how do adapt to the new techniques. Things like command-clicking a layer to make a selection now produces unexpected results. You can't see the edge of a selection unless you jump through hoops. You can't see the edge of a free transform distort. There's a little circle that seems to randomly pop up in the middle of objects. I didn't need the circle before and don't know why it's there now. Things that worked fine for 20 years have changed for no reason and make so sense. It's a waste of the little time I have.

And it's not just Photoshop.

This morning, I spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why InDesign suddenly decided to trash all my palette locations on my two-screen iMac configuration. I had to re-establish the workspace and start over. My pallets re-gather, overlapped, off the left side of my main screen several times a week.

In Illustrator, I can't resize a window by grabbing the lower-right handle without it going out of control. It's as though Adobe assumes everyone prefers the Application Frame, and didn't bother to check whether there were bugs in the free window configuration.

And everything is just SO SLOW working off a network server.

This is so frustrating and wasting so much of my time. I know Adobe doesn't read these forums, but I think this conversation needs to continue. This is the most-handicapping upgrade to Adobe software since the botched InDesign release a few years ago that was causing a firestorm on the forums. Good grief, they are asleep at the wheel.