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"Predictable income stream, pushes users to upgrade, all that benefits Adobe alone and what exactly does that do for the end user? Who are you are representing here, the end user or is Adobe paying you?"
LOL....so just because I am not running through the streets with pitchforks and torches screaming and yelling with you chasing the "monster", I am an Adobe plant or "representing " someone?
I represent no one but myself and my opinion is as I have described.
The new format DOES benefit the end user as I see it.....more frequent, smaller updates as you go, less likelihood of major system breaking problems. MUCH lower up front cost. More predictable revenue stream and tech support needs equals a stringer Adobe and that means good things for users going forward. Anyone with a head fir business and not wrapped up in the "me me me" aspect of this will get it and liekly wont bother replying because of being attacked for that belief.....and they are too busy using the software to make money.
This thread started in May of 2013, 2 full years ago. LOTS of whining and complaining about the evil new software "renting" scheme by Adobe. I dunno....2 years later they are still in business and many people have bought into it and like it.....so.........what is tthe point of going on and on about this? SOME PEOPLE DONT LIKE THE NEW SOFTWARE BUYING SCHEME. WE GET IT. How many times can the same thing be said though? Right? I keep letting myself get sucked in...a glutton for punishment I guess....but I wont jump on the "string 'em up" bandwagon.....I recognize its a business decision. Whether it hurtles Adobe to the tops of the business world or kills the company remains to be seen. I doubt the latter will happen.
"I did tech support for Adobe, we had 3 tiers represented by roughly 100 people, Adobe's profits were not hurting, again this only benefits just Adobe. "
Disgruntled ex-employee comments are not exactly what most would consider really objective comment. 
"What it does for Adobe is make it so they can role out a product, even a failure, and still force an end user base to eat the failures cost giving them time to respond by improving the failure while getting paid for it."
When has Adobe ever rolled out a "failure of a product" ? In my eyes, as a user for decades, every subsequent upgrade I have done has been bigger and better.
"Again no, look at Steam, they sell games, you buy online one (perpetual licensing), download, and Steam verifies you own the game for evermore, piracy is effectively prevented. "
Does "STEAM" put as much R&D into their product as Adobe does so that they can support PROFESSIONALS doing PROFESSIONAL WORK?
REDBOX is HUGELY successful right now too....they rent movies. CHEAP. Thing is, they rent a product that was produced by someone else. They pay royalties, sure, but they hawk someone else's work.......
Adobe has to find a way to make money selling what they have created. Its a little different. So they have to look at different ways to do so.
"Also don't forget all of our user accounts got hacked when Adobe put them on the cloud because their security blows! Not to mention their products security, Acrobat, Flash, ShockWave, they are all gaping security holes."
Wont argue there.....but that just means that they are in the same boat as hundreds of other major companies.......I dont do anything IMPORTANT in the cloud for this very reason.
"There are no problems with perpetual licencing, but Adobe is definitely fixing it as they see fit regardless of what is good for the consumer or not."
As a consumer you may not see the issues. But a reliable revenue stream IS A MAJOR issue for business. Hobbyists wont get it. Employees of companies may not get it. But business owners get it. May not like it , but they get it.
I am not 100% comfortable with the new scheme either....you don't "have something" in your hand after paying for a couple years and then stopping and walking away. True. But I argue that its like leasing or buying a car......leasing suits many and allows people to drive nice vehicles for less money up front.....and walk away from it later......you STILL had the experience of using it. You paid for that experience. Some say leasing a car is a ripoff and insist on buying new.....they pay big upfront costs and pay for 4-6 years on a car , because they want to OWN IT!!! And at the end of 4-6 years they have a 4-6 year old car with problems and they dump it just to start the process all over again. How is that better than a lease? LOL Same here. You pay to use the software and when you are done using it or no longer need to use it, you walk away. Its not like you have any need for old software anyways once its a few years old and outdated and you have stopped doing that sort of work. For those who keep on keeping on, you just keep paying into it and you get consistent upgrades and support. You pay as you go and you go as long as you want. And walk away when you no longer want it.
In the end for an average user who upgrades regularly the outlay wont be worse.
The only people this new format screws are those who buy software and don't upgrade regularly...wanting to go years on end....and there are MANY who do that.....well, that is not a customer after a time....and when that person expects support years after the sale, it becomes a liability with no revenue attached. BAD thing to have...that's Business 101.....
It is what it is. There are many other options out there to choose from....if you think Adobe is an evil dark menace for doing what they have done, MOVE ON and buy another companies wares and get some peace back in your life. Where does pursuing all this angst against Adobe really get you? LOL
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