Copy link to clipboard
Copied
this may seem petty to some, but to me it's upsetting. I've always enjoyed using adobe products for 10+ years and was rapt when they began the subscription service. It meant that their products were now streamlined and affordable.
Now though, they've increased their subscription price twice in as many years I doubt I am going to be able to continue with it. I have periods where I work and periods where I don't, and to keep having to deal with the increase in prices when what made it all so attractive in the first place was the competitive monthly cost is making it more difficult to justify.
This is a shame, it's upset me. I really don't know if I can afford $73 per month, it stings when I think i started off paying much less than that.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Try Affinity Photo - Professional image editing software if you are looking for an cheaper alternative.
I can't actually swap my workflow over as I require the entire CC suite to do what I do professionally, but if you just need to tweak photos I've heard Afinity is as close as you'll come to a PS replacement.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I use the entire suite as well, which is another reason why I'm incredibly irritated by this poor decision of theirs!
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Thanks, looks good, will look into it.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Thanks for putting me on to Affinity, buying it this weekend and have just cancelled my Adobe CC subscription (and they still gounge an extra $35 out of me for the privilege.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I am seeking advice on an alternative to Lightroom?
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
check it out: Affinity Photo - Professional image editing software
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Formerly, Adobe did not collect GST for subscription purchases in Australia and New Zealand. However, starting last fall, the company was required to start collecting GST for online purchases, on behalf of the Australian and NZ governments. For more details, see:
Here’s Why Some Creative Cloud Subscription Prices Are Changing
Note that all annual subscriptions renewing in Oz/NZ throughout 2017 will see this tax begin to be collected, and this starts at the time of your membership renewal... So, for example, if your CC subscription renews every May, then you would begin to pay the GST starting in May 2017.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Ah, the taxman cometh.
That explains a lot.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I need more explanation from Adobe. My subscription in 2016 was $49.99 - adding Australian GST would take it to $55. My 2017 renewal notice says $72.59 - I'm not sure where that additional $17 is coming from. Time to reinstall my Creative Suite software.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
It doesn't make sense, because Adobe does not want it to make sense.
This is what I got from Adobe:
"The reason for the price increase is that, US dollar has surged against many currencies and this has had an impact on Adobe revenue. To address this, we are implementing pricing changes for all Adobe products."
"As of now; we don't have any information regarding to lower the prices"
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Exactly. I don't think it will stop at $72 & GST will only ever make up 10% of the total price so when it gets to $100+ per month for the same product I used to pay $49 for how are they going to "justify" that?
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Well obviously, nobody ever likes a price increase. But it's important to note the comparison chart at the bottom of this article​, which shows that before taxes, the new Aussie prices still work out to a bit lower than the US prices in all cases (after multiplying the exchange rate).
So even after the increase, Australian customers will continue to pay Adobe less in US dollars than American customers do for the same subscription plan. (Added gov't taxes are higher though, as in Europe.)
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
No need to make excuses for Adobe. The reasons Adobe have given for the price increase is totally deceptive. I am no longer a subscriber and couldn't care less about Adobe. I only work with ethical companies who treat their customers with respect.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I agree to what you are saying here. One thing i have never understood about business is why existing customers are never treated with Loyalty. Its all about NEW customers, but once you are in the door.... then its time for the anusol.!
I have lodged a complaint with the ACCC and the Department of Fair Trading here in NSW, and will be following through with it. Adobe have just emailed me a Survey which was interesting.
sad times ahead.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Please let me know how you go, I have considered doing the same. I was also asked to completed a survey, which I did. I think I gave a reasonable response considering whats going on. I have 20 days left and then I don't know what to do.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
s1mplem1nds wrote
... lodged a complaint with the Department of Fair Trading ...
But again – and not to belabor the point – customers in Australia are still paying less than those in America for the same CC plans (on a US Dollar basis), even after the adjustment...
(In order to compare apples-to-apples, you have to remove the government taxes, which the company now collects but doesn't keep.)
So sorry to hear that your costs went up, but looking at what Adobe is actually receiving for the same product, how is that truly unfair?
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I got your last reply exactly the same from another forum user, word for word. If you work for Adobe say so. If you don't, why do you not understand my points, Adobe has never mentioned taxes in relation to the increase, why so you keep bringing it up? I don't give a rats about what other countries pay,
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
No, sorry, don't work for Adobe. Agreed that the company did not seem to communicate clearly, fully and directly the reasons involved for the price increase.
Just trying to help shed light on what's actually behind it based on research, and point out that Aussie customers still pay Adobe less than US users, after currency exchange and taxes are netted out.
You may not care about the big picture on what's actually involved or what other countries pay, but if you don't, then you could miss comprehension of the key factors driving the change.
Best to you.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Thanks mate.
This is the only reason for the price changes, provided by Adobe itself, all other reasons are speculation.
As part of doing business globally, Adobe monitors currency exchange rates in order to make adjustments to our pricing up or down as needed. You may be aware that currency exchange rates have fluctuated significantly over the last few years. As a result of recent changes in exchange rates in your region, the price of Adobe products and services is increasing starting on 5 June 2017<x-apple-data-detectors://1>
Cheers.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
darrenh55843548 schrieb
Adobe has never mentioned taxes in relation to the increase, why so you keep bringing it up? I don't give a rats about what other countries pay,
What's so hard to understand?
Adobe wants to get a revenue of 50 - 55 US-$ for a CC subscription.
In Germany it's 55 US-$, United Kingdam it's 52 US-$, Switzerland it's 54 US-$, just to name a few examples. Your 72 AU-$ are round about 53 US-$. All calculated without tax.
Be happy if you went away a long time with a lower price and for now - it's not fun to pay more but the price is not excessive. For what reason do you think you are privileged? You can cancel if you don't like it.
Fenja
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
This is the only reason for the price changes, provided by Adobe itself, all other reasons are speculation.
As part of doing business globally, Adobe monitors currency exchange rates in order to make adjustments to our pricing up or down as needed. You may be aware that currency exchange rates have fluctuated significantly over the last few years. As a result of recent changes in exchange rates in your region, the price of Adobe products and services is increasing starting on 5 June 2017<x-apple-data-detectors://1>
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I cancelled my subscription weeks ago.
I just don't agree with Adobe apologists. They made a record profit last year and their reason for price hikes is the exchange rate which is rubbish.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Looking up the exchange rates, it looks like the Aussie charges after the increase are still a bit less than what we're paying in the US.
So what you're saying seems to be you are ticked off at being required to pay almost as much as I and most other users around the world pay?
Interesting attitude. Not particularly collegial, of course ...
Neil
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
I wasn't aware of what consumers in the US pay. I was just coming from my own perspective where it was once really affordable and now it's increased. My main concern is it won't stop here. Two price increases in however many years & if it keeps going I won't be able to work. I'm a small fry, but I use all Adobe products and don't know how I could afford the cost with all my other expenses.
Copy link to clipboard
Copied
Also don't forget to consider that your Govt requires their taxes now. Previously they didn't.