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ADA Compliance

Forum|Forum|2 years ago
April 7, 2023
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I was part of a discussion on ADA Compliance but apparently Nancy O'Shea immediately locked the thread after ranting. That's not good.

Nancy,

Why are you so angry?

This is an issue where the disabled can benefit from ADA-compliant software.

The ADA is not just about websites.

Section 508 - biz will have a hard time providing DW for their disabled employees.

As stated, brick-n-mortar stores including B2B are not websites but subject to the ADA law.

Ask Netflix about that. They are not a real website per se. Dreamweaver in the cloud, well let the courts decide.

So, if Adobe would listen and adjust their software that is difficult in places, they would succeed even better than having Nancy grumble about not caring about the disabled and protecting Adobe. After all, the adjustment in their app is not that big of a deal to modify.

How about working with others and making a change for the better of society?

This topic has been closed for replies.

B i r n o u

Legend

why not let people express themselves... and even if the conversation would become a lounge room chatter... whatever... anyway, if the conversation is exhausting you, why not simply ignore it, and just let it pass, after all the filters exist, ignore it. ... you don't know how many times I don't even open emails, just by seeing a topic, or the name of the person who just posted... lol... not even an ounce of Judeo-Christian guilt-tripping thought...

well just to add a layer... and get back to the main topic of this thread... sometimes the question is not about legislating a consideration, but rather about individual or group involvement, to see how the integration and consideration, in the broadest sense, of everyone's expectations, can be amended in the tools are they for governmental use, or not ... just to improve the daily lives of the greatest number in their uses for tools they pay for.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

This reads an awful lot like chatGPT pre-spam. Only it's not as well informed.

Dreamweaver does not have to be ADA compliant. No software does. Only brick & motar buildings do. And section 508 guidelines only apply to software built for use by government agencies.

Can we please end this topic now? I'm sooooooo done with this.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

I'm not angry.

Your post was off topic. It had nothing to do with the original discussion.
As I said, Dreamweaver is NOT a website; it's software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Content_Accessibility_Guidelines
No new features are planned for Dreamweaver. It has been in minimal maintenance status since 2021. It is what it is.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

B i r n o u

Legend

As I said, Dreamweaver is NOT a website; it's software.

By @Nancy OShea

I am interested in this debate, please let me ask two questions.

1 - Does this mean that Section 508 does not include software as part of ADA compliance but only websites that need to comply?

2 - I have always believed that Section 508 requires software to be accessible to people with disabilities, especially when provided by federal agencies. So, what if Dreamweaver is used by a communications department (well, through a CC account) in a government agency?

Liam Dilley

Inspiring

This is a dead space for a dying product. And you're not talking to Creative Cloud developers here.

If you have a burning desire to improve Creative Cloud accessibility, post your concerns for products that have active beta programs.

Creative Cloud Services

Creative Cloud Desktop

Acrobat

Photoshop Ecosystem

Illustrator

InDesign

Etc...

I am 100% with Nancy on this and I do not get the agressive nature of the chatter as well and I feel it is not a discussion.

- As Nancy has stated time and time again. DW is maintained and nothing else and it is more likely this will drop then any pickup. It is an out dated concept for software. This is why they have paused it as there are so many other solutions and more modern concept approaches. To redevelop DW to fit that is a lot of work and Adobe messed up with Brackets from initially paving the way for modern IDE's but then failing to push on with that. They also do not have their own CMS really any more and do not really have anyone at Adobe who knows how to properly enter and work a good Web strategy.

So there is literally no point putting any energy in such a push and especially getting overly pasionate on it on these forums and not to a community expert just stating the facts about the software.

- Nancy is also correct in terms of software and regulations for disabled etc. There are no solid foundations for this and you can basically rule out 99% of all software if you run on what you think the regulations are across the board. In terms of bare minimum requirements DW has supported that for a long time just as most other software has. Certain further regulations ONLY apply in the US and ONLY to software specifically created for government use of which DW is not and never has been.
- WCAG is a nice thing to have but again only folowed up on for websites in certain industires. Most of your web is no where near compliant with only some sites even having the screen reader support. When you work on government sites (Of which I have here in Australia) then yes, you have to make a minimum requirement, lots of strict UI rules for the government pluys WCAG on top of that. But very specific use cases.

So a lot of the passionate dissucsion here literally is not the right place or will get anywhere. If you want to push both software and web standards for the disabled there are other means and places to go about that.

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