How do i disable live shapes??

Community Beginner ,
Dec 06, 2015 Dec 06, 2015

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i just updates my illustrator to the latest 2015cc, and got the liveshapes feature, but it's driving me crazy and i want to disable it, how do i do that?

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Adobe Community Professional , Dec 06, 2015 Dec 06, 2015
Unfortunately you can't. With the new object still selected, use the Expand from the Object menu to get a no-longer Live path.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 01, 2016 Feb 01, 2016

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Hit the nail on the head. At the end of the day, Illustrator is a tool to get what is in our heads into a digital format as pain free as possible. Simplify man.

Live shapes are all well and good, but why when I create a line? a line is not a shape!!!

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Mentor ,
Feb 02, 2016 Feb 02, 2016

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Monika Gause wrote:

KrisHunt schrieb:

I think they are slowly transitioning Illustrator to be "touch-friendly", allowing you to apply as many kinds of transformations to an object as possible without the use of any specific tools or modifiers.

No, they just finally implemented live shapes which other vector tools have had for years.

From the Illustrator blog:

The latest 2015 release of Adobe Illustrator CC, which delivers Illustrator’s professional toolset for creating vector graphics, has new features for its Touch workspace. The Touch workspace is designed for Windows tablets, such as the Microsoft Surface Pro, or Windows desktop machines with touch capability…

New features for the Touch workspace in this release:

New Live Shapes: Ellipses, Polygons and Lines: More of the Illustrator Shape tools are now fully live, interactive and dynamically adjustable, so you can quickly craft vector shapes without having to apply effects or use other tools.

Yeah, so... looks like I was right. Dumbed down for touch.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 02, 2016 Feb 02, 2016

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KrisHunt schrieb:

From the Illustrator blog:

The latest 2015 release of Adobe Illustrator CC, which delivers Illustrator’s professional toolset for creating vector graphics, has new features for its Touch workspace. The Touch workspace is designed for Windows tablets, such as the Microsoft Surface Pro, or Windows desktop machines with touch capability…

New features for the Touch workspace in this release:

New Live Shapes: Ellipses, Polygons and Lines: More of the Illustrator Shape tools are now fully live, interactive and dynamically adjustable, so you can quickly craft vector shapes without having to apply effects or use other tools.

Yeah, so... looks like I was right. Dumbed down for touch.

I don't know which page you quote, but I don't see the special mention of touch workspace here:

What’s coming in the latest 2015 release of Illustrator CC « Adobe Illustrator blog

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Mentor ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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It's the December 9th post.

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Sep 21, 2016 Sep 21, 2016

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Onbegrijpelijk dat jouw post niet bovenaan staat! Dank! Het enige goede antwoord.

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Explorer ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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You may be able to disable your Smart Line in Preferences>Smart Guides>Transform Tools. I have mine turned off and I do not see the Smart Line. This may not be correct and I will defer to any with more knowledge in this, but it seems to work for me.

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Mentor ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Oh my gosh, you're a genius. Unchecking "Transform Tools" does fix the problem! This is huge.

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Community Beginner ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Odd, toggling this setting has no effect for me. haha

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Mentor ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Odd, toggling this setting has no effect for me. haha

It eliminates the problem with the Shift key and Smart Guides that I detailed in this video. Not really related to live shapes.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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That explains why I could not reproduce your problem as in the video. I have the option never turned on.

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Mentor ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Turn it on for a day, and watch your blood pressure rise. It completely destroys the ability to use the Shift key and Smart Guides at the same time. I wonder why that checkbox even exists.

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Turn it on for a day, and watch your blood pressure rise. It completely destroys the ability to use the Shift key and Smart Guides at the same time. I wonder why that checkbox even exists.

I see what you mean, it does not behave like that in CC2014, but I would not prefer to turn it on.

So that's a bug.

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Mentor ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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You may be able to disable your Smart Line in Preferences>Smart Guides>Transform Tools. I have mine turned off and I do not see the Smart Line. This may not be correct and I will defer to any with more knowledge in this, but it seems to work for me.

Still doesn't fix this problem, though:

Kris Hunt wrote:

Try this one: make a horizontal "live" line and, without having Smart Guides turned on, hold down Shift and try to extend one of the endpoints to make the line longer, and still horizontal. Surprise! It's impossible now! Heck, even with Smart Guides turned on, you can't use the Shift key to do that.

Edit: It does work fine if you select an endpoint with the Direct Selection tool, but not if you select the whole line with the Selection tool.

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Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Oh, I wouldn't have noticed that. I use only the Direct Selection tool and modifier keys.

That's another thing I've gotten away from in an attempt to speed up my work. I never touch the Selection tool (black arrow in my lingo). When Adobe allowed us to create our tools pallet, I was hoping I could delete it, but it would not let me. I could probably build an entirely new tool panel to match the the existing one with the simple omission of the Selection tool, but doing so would simply be an exercise in spite, when ignoring it works just fine.

The Selection tool has only one function, regardless of which modifier keys you hold (except to switch to the Direct Selection tool). Using the Direct Selection tool (white arrow) and modifier keys, you can utilize the function of the Selection tool without leaving the Direct Selection tool. This allows you all of the functions of both tools in one. It basically eliminates the need to even have a Selection tool. With that reasoning I've trained myself to use only the Direct Selection tool (a).

I am a key-command freak, though. Knowing and using your key-commands is the easiest and most efficient way to speed up your work, in my opinion. Without a keyboard handy I would be the slowest operator of Illustrator on the planet (and probably the angriest). I hate having to go back and forth to the tools panel or to the Menu bar. It's... sooooo... sloooowwww!

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Mentor ,
Feb 04, 2016 Feb 04, 2016

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Interesting; I'd never thought about doing that.

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Jan 21, 2016 Jan 21, 2016

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I'd like to add my request to be able to disable live shapes.  I just updated to the newest version today and it is already driving me crazy.  I don't need the new ellipse handle functions, I could already resize proportionally with the shift key.  I want to be able to squash and stretch as before.  I don't want to have to squash from the top or bottom and then rotate.  What a headache.  I don't want to have to "expand" each time I draw an ellipse.  Please allow the disable feature, Adobe.  I'm sure there are times when the live feature would be nice, but for many other times, its an unnecessary complication.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 25, 2016 Jan 25, 2016

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It's awfully frustrating to change the basic instinctive ways of working with objects. Especially when you don't have any options to change it back to old ones. For me it's like to move randomly cmd/alt/shift on the keyboard.

I'd like to add my request for disabling live shapes, it's awful and counterproductive and it's very, very frustrating in all ways. I know how to expand live shapes, i just don't want to do it for evey shape i make because i won't use live shapes EVER — the old dead ones were totally ok for me.

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Mentor ,
Jan 25, 2016 Jan 25, 2016

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Then please, make your request here. For whatever reason, Adobe reps don't seem to respond to the Illustrator forum unless the word "crash" appears in the title.

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Jan 25, 2016 Jan 25, 2016

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Kris, thanks for advice, i was just doing it right now 😃 Hope, our request will be heard and implemented.

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Feb 01, 2016 Feb 01, 2016

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Behold, the ellipse of tomorrow:

The Ellipse of Tomorrow.jpg

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Feb 02, 2016 Feb 02, 2016

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I am especially looking forward to using the new dog and cat features of live shapes.

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Explorer ,
Sep 30, 2016 Sep 30, 2016

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KrisHunt,

"the ellipse of tomorrow:"  -> Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!

All these "new features" have made me so irritated, angry, and bitter to a point that my work day becomes trashed and pointless due to all the google'ing I have to do just to turn unwanted/unneeded flow disrupting items off.

I have been so frustrated that I have actually thought about re-installing my ai 10 on a windows 7 machine and just moonlighting after leaving this field and finding a new job.

So,Thank You for the bright spot and smiles you have given me! I laughed so hard the devs in the cubes around me had to ask what was so funny. Of course they rolled their eyes because it wasn't binary humor, but, I sooo needed that even if I'm alone to enjoy it.

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Feb 02, 2016 Feb 02, 2016

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I'd just like to chime in on this, too. I've already submitted a feature request to make "live shapes" optional, so this is just me venting my spleen, really!

So, I create a triangle using the polygon tool. The triangle is created with its base parallel to the x-axis, as you would expect. Now I want to adjust the width of my triangle, but not the height. There are no drag-handles on the edges of the bounding box, only at the corners. Expand Shape is not really an option in this instance, as it uses one of the triangle's angled sides as the new "base" (try it!). The only way that I've found to get around this, so far, is to drag from a corner (whilst the triangle is still a "live shape") being careful not to alter the height (the shape is then automatically expanded, causing the same result as described in the previous sentence), and then select Reset Bounding Box from Object > Transform.

Having to do this every time I create a new shape is driving me mad! It really interrupts my workflow. To try to speed things up a little, I created a custom keyboard shortcut for the Reset Bounding Box menu command, which won't even work – but I guess that's another story.

Come on Adobe! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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Feb 02, 2016 Feb 02, 2016

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Try this one: make a horizontal "live" line and, without having Smart Guides turned on, hold down Shift and try to extend one of the endpoints to make the line longer, and still horizontal. Surprise! It's impossible now! Heck, even with Smart Guides turned on, you can't use the Shift key to do that.

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Feb 02, 2016 Feb 02, 2016

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But with smart guides turned on you don't need the Shift key to make it longer and keep it horizontal.

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