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Hosun
Hosun
Inspiring
May 23, 2024
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border issue in Endnote

  • May 23, 2024
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Hi,

 

I opened an EPUB with the Books app on Mac. 
All of a sudden, I see a black border in Endnote. I haven't seen it before. 

How can I resolve the issue?

 

Hosun

 

 

    Correct answer James Gifford—NitroPress

    I guess something is not consistent between Id and the Books app.

     

    A few years ago, I made my website.

    The final version was good on Chrome and Edge. But on Safari, it's presented a little different from what I intended. So, I added a few line to CSS. I guess a similiat thing is happening now.

     

    The Adobe people might monitor converstions in the Community. They would address the issue soon.

     

    Thank you very much for your help. And I have two more questions.

     

    Q1.

    What is CJK version of Id?

     

    Q2.

    In the table below, converting indd to idml reduces the file size a lot.

    When each is exported to EPUB, the file sizes are identical.

     

    What is idml?

    Should I convert indd to idml, before exporting to EPUB?

     

    Hosun

     


    First, the border appears on all readers I have tried. It has nothing to do with Apple's reader.

     

    Since I cannot make it appear on any document except your source one, I conclude that your version of InDesign is doing something differently from my standard, Western/English version of 19.4. I assume (possibly wrongly) you are using the version that can handle Asian languages, known as the "Chinese-Japanese-Korean" version, or CJK. If not, I have no idea why your setup would produce this different result on EPUB export.

     

    IDML is a more generic XML-based version of InDesign documents. It can be used to move docs from one version to another, especially to older versions from newer ones. It is key in fixing certain kinds of document corruption — if you export a problematic document to IDML, then open it and save again as INDD under a new name, it often fixes problems with things like formatting, numbering etc. that can't be fixed by regular adjustments. It has nothing to do with EPUB export.

     

    I suspect that is at the root of the file size difference as well. Your INDD file is bloated with old editing and meta-data, and export to IDML purges that. Since the conversion to EPUB is about as total a format change as possible, the results are the same since the extra/bloated data is irrelevant to the export.

     

    There is something different about your system and export; it may be that you have a corrupted document that has faulty settings for the Basic Text Frame, or that your setup is handling it differently. That's the whole of this problem, and simply omitting Basic Text Frame from the EPUB export cures it — at least, for me.

    1 reply

    James Gifford—NitroPress
    James Gifford—NitroPress
    Legend
    May 23, 2024

    Open the EPUB in any other reader, like Calibre. If the border is there as well, it's something in the file. However, I suspect it's an app thing, since almost no reader allows any kind of content display outside the viewport area (with small margins all around the screen).

     

    Try any couple of EPUB readers you might have, good or bad, just to check for the border.

     

    If it's only in the end notes, it may be a (new?) reader feature indicating you're out of the main content, or something.

      Hosun
      HosunAuthor
      Inspiring
      May 23, 2024

      Thank you very much for your reply.

      You are correct. It’s the app’s issue.

       

      I can remove the border with

      #_idContainer150 {border-style: none;}

       

      The issue is; the text frame is squeezed on both sides. It is observed only in Endnote.


      Is there any way to remove the space and enlarge the text frame?

       

      The settings on Id are not presented only in Endnote on ePub.

       

       

      helenatawny
      helenatawny
      Participant
      January 10, 2025

      First, if you simply exclude [Basic Text Frame] from export, the problerm is functionally solved. As I routinely exclude all the built-in, Basic styles from my exports, this works for me regardless of what's actually causing the fault.

       

      That said, I've been forward and backward over the content code and CSS and cannot figure out what is causing that addition of 'border-style: solid;' to the CSS, or why it is only being enabled for the Endnote frame. Nothing in the code adds up to this result; I can only think there is some interpretation code assembling that border from the definitions.

       

      I'll also note I've never seen a section. definition type, as applied to the basic text frame. I was sort of done with my poking by the time I thought to see if you have any document sections defined that might be triggering that export.

       

      On the whole, I'd just go with the exclude fix above and move on, but I will look at the file again today just out of confused curiosity.


      Hello! I am having this same issue, using North American version 19.5 and I don't see any 'basic text frame' option during export. I also have never created a custom CSS style sheet, so I'm not sure how to go about that. Any help is greatly appreciated! I don't have any additional programs I'm using to run the file through to generate any of these style sheets or double check errors. 

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