How to keep multiple paragraph styles together

[vickey_7768]

I'm currently working on a cook book and was wondering if anyone could help. I currently have paragraph styles set for the title, ingredients and directions section and was wondering if there was a way to tell it to keep all the section together. I've included a picture, is there a way to make the title "Viv's appetizer spread" move to the next page?

[Willi Adelberger]

Use the keep options. Keep the headline with the next paragraph and/or  the following text with keep with previous.

[vickey_7768]

Hi Willi, thank you for the quick response. When I use the keep option on the ingredients paragraph style they no longer appear in split columns. 

[Peter Spier]

In addition to what @Willi Adelberger said, you may also need to do the same for the all but the last paragraph in your section. Without a keep option it would also want to split columns between ingredients (if each line is a separate paragraph) and between the ingredients and Method, and betwenn the Method and directions text.

[vickey_7768]

Hi Peter, thank you for the response. I've added the keep option to everything except the title, however, when I added it to the ingredients paragraph style they no longer appear in split columns. Also, I noticed on this page that the directions is still not together. Does it not work between spreads?

[Peter Spier]

It should work between spreads. Looks like you need a Kepp option to keep all ined in that paragraph together...

As for the split columns in the ingredients, I think this will not work except as either tabbed text or a real table.

You can try, though, using a soft return (Shift + Enter) instead of individual paragraphs, but my gut says that isn't going to help. 

[Barb Binder]

I keystroked Peter's suggestion of using line breaks—and as he correctly surmised—it didn't work.

Nor did making the frame two columns and spanning the titles and the instructions and allows the ingredients to not split or span.

It seems that Split and Span and Keep Options are mutually exclusive.  🙁 

~Barb

[Eugene Tyson]

Odd - making them one cell tables would work, cells can't break over pages. 

So select the entire section and convert text to table, and style the cell - apply a style for quick manipulation and appication. 

Should work.

[vickey_7768]

I've tried converting a recipe into a single cell table, however, it removes the split columns for the ingredients. Is there a way to make only that text appear as two column within the cell?

[Willi Adelberger]

Splitt colums? You have only a single column, separate the number to the ingredient with a tabulator. Don*t make thins complicated.

[Peter Spier]

No, but I really don't understand why Eugene tyhinks a single cell table is better than keep options. 

Keeping all lines together in a paragraph, and keeping the paragraphs with each other, will prevent breaking across pages or columns except between recipes.

[Eugene Tyson]

Never said it was better. 

It would work though. 

[vickey_7768]

You are right the table didn't work. I now have everything together with keep options, however, it still break between ingredients. If I tell it to keep lines together, it removes the split columns. I also removed the Keep with Previous on the "Method" sub-header as it would just keep with one ingredient and not the full list. 

[Peter Spier]

You are right the table didn't work. I now have everything together with keep options, however, it still break between ingredients. If I tell it to keep lines together, it removes the split columns. I also removed the Keep with Previous on the "Method" sub-header as it would just keep with one ingredient and not the full list. 

By @vickey_7768

Really, use tabs to make a 2-column ingredients list and for get the split column feature...

[vickey_7768]

I could do that, however, the ingredients appear in order of use in the recipe and I would have to manually move each ingredients to have even columns and keep them in proper order. Unless you know a better way of doing it?

I'm bringing in a few hundred recipes from a variety of sources the client had provided and was looking to optimize the formating to make this as smooth as possible.  I may have to add recipes throughout the book later which is why I was trying to keep the full recipe together automatically to avoid adjusting all the text boxes once a new recipe is added. If you have any suggestion, please let me know. 

[Peter Spier · Accepted solution]

The only thing that occurs to me if the ingredients are in order vertically and you want to make two columns is to use a separate text frame with a two column layout just for the ingredients list, size it to fit, and the anchor it as an anchored object in the other text flow.

[Eugene Tyson]

Sorry, you'd have to make it a 2 column table with 1 row.

It's only an option and probably not practical if you're using split columns for various reasons.