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kmicymru
Inspiring
November 15, 2018
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PDF file size WAY too big

  • November 15, 2018
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I have CC and my InDesign file size is big but not unusually so (25 MB) as it is about 80 pages of high-rez (linked) images. I am using PDF for print when exporting, something I have done many times before but suddenly, it is taking 30-40 minutes and the PDF file size 216 MB! The last similar project had more images and made a PDF that was about 50 MB. I have not changed any settings, that I am aware of. Anyone have any ideas for me? The PDF is so huge that it crashes before I can review the whole thing.

Thanks!

    Correct answer kmicymru

    If you have 80 pages of content much of which is high resolution imagery and your resultant PDF file is 216MB, that's less than 3MB per page (and with the Smallest File Size setting, 180MB, less than 2.25MB per page). If you have photographic type raster imagery (as opposed to raster images of vector-like content) on each page, you actually are not doing that badly in terms of PDF file size. You can't legislate the size of a PDF file. Considering that the original InDesign document is 25MB with links to the raster images, I cannot imagine any way that you are going to get the PDF file size down to 10MB.

    In terms of image compression, your only choices are to downsample the images when exporting PDF. Significant file size loss occurs going from 300/450 to 100/100 or 72/72 and/or to specify lowest quality JPEG compression.

    Just remember that (1) your on-line PDF won't be worth much if the image quality is very poor and that (2) although 72dpi for screen viewing was in vogue years ago, many screens now are effectively anywhere between 150 and 300dpi, i.e. requiring the same or better quality than you would use for print.

              - Dov


    I figured it out!! Phew...

    I had 11 PDF maps included in the links. The maps were not particularly huge (0.7-2 MB, and one 4 MB), but they must have been carrying a TON of meta data. I saved the PDFs as PNGs and the final PDF export is now 30MB!! When I save as reduced, it is 5.6 MB (and it still looks nice). Score!

    Thanks for everyone's time and input!

    7 replies

    New Participant
    April 26, 2021

    For future reference the 'Create seperate PDF files' tool can be very useful for finding out exactly which page is causing the issue. When file size suddenly jumps up it is often that one image of link is causing the problem. This tool creates a folder with the document exported as individual PDFs, allows you to see which page is causing the problem.

     

     

    skiddydoodah
    Participating Frequently
    November 16, 2018

    In Acrobat Pro you can 'Save as other / optimised pdf' and remove some unwanted data there, also in that window on top right is 'audit space usage' - it will show you where all the data is, may help to confirm some suspicions.

    rob day
    Community Expert
    November 15, 2018

    There have also been some threads about metadata coming in with image files that will bloat an exported PDF. See #55-65 in this thread:

    Re: File size is too big

    kmicymru
    kmicymruAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 16, 2018

    I was wondering if this could be a problem... I think I might be down to removing all of the images and then adding them back in one at a time to try to find the one or two that are the problem. Ugh.

    Scott Citron
    Brainiac
    November 15, 2018

    Are you using JPEG compression? Can you take a screenshot of your PDF export settings and post to this forum?

    barbara_a7746676
    Community Expert
    November 15, 2018

    Are  you able to post the InDesign file, including linked graphics and fonts, so that we can take a look at it and try to troubleshoot?

    winterm
    Brainiac
    November 15, 2018

    May your indd file contain some complex vector based artworks? Most likely, in linked ai/pdf files. In this case, no matter what your compression settings are, such a complex vectors may come in as a very heavy PDF file. The only solution I'm aware is to rasterize such artworks prior to exporting pdf.

    Dov Isaacs
    Brainiac
    November 15, 2018

    Generally speaking, the only “complex vector-based artwork” that yields very large (and complex) PDF files is from CAD/CAM software and that is pretty rare. And it wouldn't account for differences between what was previously produced and what is produced now.

    What is also interesting in the OPs symptoms is the report that “the PDF is so huge that it crashes before I can review the whole thing.” The fact is that 216MB is not that large for a very graphically-rich PDF file (I've open many PDF files up to six times that size with no problems). Exactly what is the PDF file being viewed in, Acrobat or Reader (version?) or perhaps some other PDF viewer?

              - Dov

    - Dov Isaacs, former Adobe Principal Scientist (April 30, 1990 - May 30, 2021)
    kmicymru
    kmicymruAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 16, 2018

    I'm using Acrobat X Pro and I was able to finally review the entire document but it got really sluggish about 3/4 of the way through. It wouldn't be too big of an issue to have a large file if it was ONLY going to be sent to the printer but I also need to publish the file online. Using "Smallest File Size," I can get it down to 180 MB - still way to big to publish. I tried saving as a reduced size PDF through Acrobat but it ends up at about the same - 182 MB. I need it down below 10. I have two or three images that are up above 6 MB but most are in the 1-1.5 MB range, with a handful at 300-500 KB. Even without compression, the math doesn't seem to add up.

    BobLevine
    Community Expert
    November 15, 2018

    What are you export settings for compression.

    kmicymru
    kmicymruAuthor
    Inspiring
    November 16, 2018

    I am using the default settings for export to Adobe PDF (print). Here's a screen shot of the compression settings...

    BobLevine
    Community Expert
    November 16, 2018

    Probably won't make a major difference but worth changing the 300 for images above 450 to 300 above 300.