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Perhaps my question was not clear, so I will try to explain better. The question is related to position of the objects but has a touch of bleeding to it. However, I want to stay away from the spine bleeding issues raised in other discussions.
I will have a book with numerous, almost full-page images (see image below). The images should bleed to the external edge of the page. Inevitably, I will reorder, remove, or add pages, sometimes images, sometimes text pages. Many times, it will not be possible to add/remove/reposition full spreads, but single pages will be added/removed/repositioned. When that happens, the position/bleeding gets all messed up. In a potentially hundreds-page book will be a mess to clean it up.
Now, it seems that this is not possible at the moment (which is strange) so it would be great to file this under a feature request: have a odd/even position setting on the Object Styles. I suspect this would also solve some of the spine bleeding issues, but it would be good overall.
Secondly, I would ask someone familiar with scripting in InDesign how difficult it would be to write something that reads like: variable oddposition= N mm; variable evenposition= M mm; variable selObSt select.ObjectStyle “BleedingImage”; for each selObSt if onEvenPage Position=evenposition else oddposition. NOTE THIS IS FAKE CODE LANGUAGE 😉
@rob day Any ideas?
Hello Eugene,
I have checked this and it seems to work somehow in a very convoluted way. i.e. it is a work around that can be bent to do what I think would be a very basic request.
Here’s what I finally did:
- Created an Object Style “Anchoring Frame” (that will be an "invisible" text frame) with a fixed full size of the page and positioned in x=0, y=0 (actuall, this could even be out of the page in fact);
- Created an Object Style “Bleeding image”, with a fixed size and an anchored position related to the spine and page edge.
- To implement it, I create a text box, apply the “Anchoring Frame” style; go inside it, Right-click > Anchored Object > Insert, choose the “Bleeding Image” Style; then select the frame and Place the image.
It seems to work well and robustly and I am happy with it for my immediate task at hand. Thank you.
However, I can’t help being a bit frustrated. The "invisible" text box creation seems superfluous. The options under Anchored Object could easily be on the “Size and Position options” of every object. It would also be useful for text boxes themselves. I fear that you need to insert an anchored text box in an "invisible" text box, if you would like to do this.
Also I was not able to work out the group anchor, so for every element that needs to be “mirroring” from odd page to even page, you need to create an independent “invisible” text frame.
I would still call for this as a much needed feature on the "Size and Position options". It was created for a whole different purpose (as you describe in your very informative LinkeIn post).
Thank you, N
PS. on your LinkedIn post you mention that, on PC, you need to CTRL + double-click on the anchor icon to open the dialog box. In fact, Alt + single-click on the anchor icon willl do the trick. Thanks again.
Hi Eugene,
You don't seem to appreciate my comment but I confirm it! …
Let's take a simplistic example:
As you can see, the layout is "correct" (bleed).
Now, imagine I decide to remove the page 2!
What a mess with the bleed! …
… Keep cool! I just need 1 click to fix it!
Of course, I can continue to add/remove pages! …
The images are not anchored, just placed on the pages and they are enough big to allow the Script to increase their parent frame width! So, they don't move in their page: we only make the right/left side more or less visible!
Have a good day!
(^/) The Jedi
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