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vinny38
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November 13, 2018
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Rectangle frame tool vs Rectangle tool

  • November 13, 2018
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Hi Community

A discussion has started on the French forum based on "why on earth are there two separate tools in the toolbar: Rectangle tool and Rectangle frame tool?"
Since we can assign what we want to one or the other, what can justify this "duplicate"?

Therefore, my question is:
Do you see any interest in having these two separate tools in the tool panel?
If so, can you explain in which specific cases do you prefer to use a particular tool?

Vinny

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amaarora
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 13, 2018

Hi,

Rectangle Frame tool- With content as Graphic, has a Basic Graphic Frame style applied

Rectangle Tool-With content Unassigned has a [None] style

Personally, i would create rectangle for backgrounds, fills etc. Clicking inside a rectangle does not select it vs clicking inside a rectangle frame

Rectangle frame can be preferred for holding images (or act as image placeholders because of its appearance) since it can hold an image when a place cursor is hovered over it.

By default, frames with rectangle tool have a stroke applied.

-Aman

vinny38
vinny38Author
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November 13, 2018

Steve Werner​ Why did you mark Aman's answer as correct?

Sorry but no...

Let me rephrase my question:

"What major differences between Rectangle tool and Rectangle frame tool justify their presence in the Tools panel as two distinctive tools?"

So far, no good answer to this question, sorry again.

Vinny

vinny38
vinny38Author
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November 13, 2018

We choose to disagree. I think Amaarora gave several reasons. It's also historical because QuarkXPress largely did it that way. You can recognize a placeholder rectangle for graphics by the X across the frame.

I'll also add that there is no good reason to change the way people are used to. InDesign does not have a surplus of tools (look at Illustrator or Photoshop by comparison!). I don't think things should be changed unless there's a good reason. This makes it easier for long-time users.


Steve,

Nothing wrong with disagreements, they're part of the debate.

Although I'd wish I could choose which answer is correct or not by myself .

As a matter of fact, it looks that there will be no good one whatsoever.

This thread is a debate more than a question really.

You said "there is no good reason to change the way people are used to".

I find this interesting, because I personally almost never use the Rectangle tool. I wouldn't miss it really.

Maybe a good reason would be "because it's useless"?