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November 21, 2024
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Script to sort list of Bible Verses

  • November 21, 2024
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Hello,

Is anyone aware of a script that will make Bible Verses like this pic in Indesign?

 

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Community Expert
November 23, 2024

Thanks for this great information, but I need first make this (Gensis 1:1..........230) in all Book Automatically.

> I want Script to make all verses like the pic, and then sort the verses.

 

You mean the index entries haven't been marked up yet in the text? And you want a script that finds all bible books and chapters in the text and marks them up? If that's the case you'll need to show how the chapters and verses appear in the text. Sorting them is not a problem, InDesign will do that for you.

Participating Frequently
November 23, 2024

This is exactly what I need.

Community Expert
November 23, 2024

The first thing is to provide samples of the formats of. chapters and verses. That  can be quite a challenge because you can have a chapter name followed by several verses, chapter names can be abbreviated, etc. etc.

 

And you need to provide a list of chapter names in the order in which you want them sorted. Just a plain list, one chapter name per line.

Marc Autret
Brainiac
November 22, 2024

Hi @Yousef Sobhy 

 

Not sure this is exactly the ordering you're looking for, but SmartSort (free InDesign script) could help you get closer to the desired result, assumed you have a dedicated ¶-style for the head titles. Then

1. Select your Level1 style + “Sub-Sort Only”.

2. Turn on the Sort Numbers option.

 

 

https://indiscripts.com/category/projects/SmartSort

 

Best,

Marc

Participating Frequently
November 22, 2024

Hi @Marc Autret,

Thanks for this great information, but I need first make this (Gensis 1:1..........230) in all Book Automatically.

I want Script to make all verses like the pic, and then sort the verses.

Thank you

Marc Autret
Brainiac
November 23, 2024

Hi @Yousef Sobhy 

 

Ah, sorry, I thought it was just a sorting issue…

 

Regarding automatic index creation based on Bible references, @AlanGilbertson mentioned above a tool which he describes as “the only tool that worked for (such) a difficult multi-volume project”. Maybe he's right and you should take a look.

 

I would also mention IndexMatic3 (my own solution). In my experience (and especially that of the users I've talked to), it can extract these types of references from a book and produce the index with the desired formatting. It's basically a matter of sending the right queries (regular expressions) and creating the corresponding topics and entries. Note, however, that iX³ creates an independent index in InDesign (or txt, or xml, or idms), so it doesn't use the built-in Index feature.

 

May I suggest that you test the TRY version to see if it meets your needs?

 

Best,

Marc

AlanGilbertson
Community Expert
November 21, 2024

This is by far the best tool for creating the kind of index(es) you show in the image. It was the only tool that worked for a difficult multi-volume project I had some years ago, and I've not come across a better one since then.

http://virginiasystems.com/products_d.html

 

Participating Frequently
November 24, 2024

Hi @AlanGilbertson 

I am trying to use this tool to make a Bible verse index, but I could not handle this tool. Can you help me with pictures to make this index?

Willi Adelberger
Community Expert
November 21, 2024

I make a text anchor with the full bible verse. If only the chapter and verse stand alone it will be impossible. But sorting I do manually. I have the problem, that each translation has a different order. Lutheran translationions have a different than Reformed, and Messianic have another order again. I setup a lot of theological evangelical literature for colleges in Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

Robert at ID-Tasker
Brainiac
November 21, 2024

@Willi Adelberger

 

It would be just a case of assigning a number to each keyword - so they won't have to be sorted alphabetically - and then sort.

 

Robert at ID-Tasker
Brainiac
November 21, 2024

@Yousef Sobhy

 

Can you share a sample INDD file - with a list you want to sort?

 

James Gifford—NitroPress
Brainiac
November 21, 2024

It's just an index. Seems there would be scripts or plug-ins tailored to this specific task.

brian_p_dts
Community Expert
November 21, 2024
Robert at ID-Tasker
Brainiac
November 21, 2024

Do you have a list to sort - or the list needs to be created first? 

 

If it's foundable - then not a problem.