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Strange problem: Pasting text to InDesign CC2015 always adds cyan color

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June 22, 2015
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Every time I paste a text into any InDesign document in InDesign CC2015 – it also imports the color 100% cyan to my swatch library. (They text is still black though, and there is no background color or anything.)

Anyone knows why this happens?!?

Not a big deal but quite odd...

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Correct answer Laubender

Another note on this.

What is not working:

Changing the default fill color of paragraph shading, if you are changing the defaults of your "Basic Paragraph Style" when no document is open to "None" and proceed.

You still have a swatch named "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" that is in use. I suspect, that fill color "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" is part of the "invisible" "No Paragraph Style" paragraph style. And "Basic Paragraph Style" is based on "No Paragraph Style".

Just tested this by scripting (ExtendScript/JavaScript) and can confirm my assumption.

One can address the "No Paragraph Style" by the index of 0 of the paragraph styles collection of the app (that means InDesign) like that:

app.paragraphStyles[0].paragraphShadingColor.name;

will return "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0".

And one cannot change this. Even by scripting.

Trying to assign "None" to the paragraph shading color property as value

app.paragraphStyles[0].paragraphShadingColor = "None";

will throw an error.

So "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" will stay with us for a long time, I suspect ;-)

Uwe

amaarora

Community Manager

Hi,

Although an old thread, but because it has come at the top again due to some comments, I would like to add that this issue has been fixed with CC 2018 release of InDesign. With this release, we have changed the default Paragraph Shading colour from Cyan to 20% tint [Black].

Thus for all new documents, the shading color that will come by default will not be Cyan. You will also not be seeing "Cyan" in used swatches list when it is not actually being used in the document.

-Aman

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Laubender

Community Expert

Hi Aman,

I appreciated this change very much.

Thanks,
Uwe

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denised

Known Participant

Still same with 2018.

DWCastillo

Known Participant

So, has this actually been resolved?

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Laubender

Community Expert

Nothing has changed in this regards…

Best,

Uwe

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denised

Known Participant

denised wrote
No it has not been fixed in 2018, have tried with a new doc, no cyan, changed paragraph shading to none, then paper, then black - cyan comes back when any text is pasted (not from another Indesign doc, from Powerpoint, Acrobat, etc).

Did you make that change in the Paragraph panel or in the Paragraph Styles panel to the Basic Paragraph Style?

have you tried resetting your prefs?

I made sure the default basic paragraph shading was black (2018 default). Also tried making it white or none through Paragraph style settings. It's a new doc so I wouldn't pick up any left overs from earlier versions. No other paragraph styles but the default. Copied and pasted text from an AcrobatPro pdf into a new text box and the cyan swatch appeared. The paragraph shading does not change but I get the swatch.Also had the problem with pasting from Powerpoint. Will investigate further in case there are settings in the pdf or PPT that are copying with the text. Thanks for checking back.

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simonflynn

Participant

This all begs the question: Who on Earth was ever using or needing Paragraph Shading?

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Laubender

Community Expert

simonflynn wrote:
This all begs the question: Who on Earth was ever using or needing Paragraph Shading?

This question can be asked for a lot of InDesign's features. Even for the very basic ones. Different needs for different tasks I'd say. And paragraph shading is helpful for long document creation and is simplifying the formatting of text without using text cells or anchored text frames for the same purpose.

I must admit that it could be even more helpful, if strokes and corner effects were added and if paragraphs holding tables aren't ignored.

Regards,
Uwe

Andersson

Known Participant

I am working on a 64 page brochure. Before going to print I like to check my document and delete unused colors. The clients design guidelines doesn't allow any cyan colors. I can't just assume "aha that's the paragraph shading color". The only way of knowing it's not used if it's not there anymore.

Why can't the default colors for InDesign be named like this:

Black

Paper

Paragraph shade (can also be cyan)

This would be followed by the default colors as before 100% Cyan, 100% Magenta etc

rob day

Community Expert

If you are not using paragraph shading at all, try this AppleScript (paste into Script Editor and run). It will set paragraph shading of all of the paragraphs and paragraph styles in the active doc to "Paper".

tell application "Adobe InDesign CC 2015"

tell active document

set p to item 3 of every swatch

set pstyles to all paragraph styles

repeat with i from 1 to number of items in pstyles

try

set paragraph shading color of item i of pstyles to p

end try

end repeat

try

set paragraph shading color of every paragraph of every story to p

end try

try

set paragraph shading color of every paragraph of every cell of every table of every story of active document to p

end try

end tell

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lisag34437394

Participant

Hi all,

I have the same issue (I think), although I have the latest version of inDesign installed.

I have a document with custom swatches. At the moment I am replacing the English text with the German translation (that I have in a Word Document.). Everytime I paste a new section of the text to inDesign, it automatically adds a new version of one of my blue swatches (not the cyan that you had issues with). I didn't notice this in the beginning, but suddenly I had 110 versions of the same blue swatch, even though the text itself is black (both in Word and inDesign).

Does ayone know how to resolve this issue? It's not a big thing for me to delete the swatches since they aren't even used, but it's still a bit annoying that I have to do it...

/Lisa

rob day

Community Expert

Everytime I paste a new section of the text to inDesign, it automatically adds a new version of one of my blue swatches

I think this is a different issue and isn't related to the new paragraph shading feature the OP was having a problem with.

When you paste text or an object that uses a named swatch that already exists in the document; the Color Type, Color Mode and color values have to be identical otherwise a new swatch will be created with a numbered suffix. Try using Paste Without Formatting rather than Paste.

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lisag34437394

Participant

Ah, true - yes, this is probably related to something else.

Unfortunately "paste without formatting" is not enabled :/ But I suppose it has something to do with the original formatting and me first copying/pasting the English text from inDesign to Word, then pasting it back to the inDesign-document. Oh well Thank you anyway!

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Laubender

Community Expert

Hi Lars,

this is caused by the new Paragraph Shading feature where Cyan* is used as default color for the shading.

Example:

Add a new document.

Remove all unused colors from the Swatches Panel.

* The standard cyan swatch "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" is still there (together with all colors in brackets you cannot remove).

So, if you remove this swatch, you have to substitute it with something else, let's say "[Black]" (by default).

Now copy/paste text from a different document to the document you removed "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0".

In the moment you paste the text, "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" is back again.

Uwe

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Laubender

Correct answer

Community Expert

Another note on this.

What is not working:

Changing the default fill color of paragraph shading, if you are changing the defaults of your "Basic Paragraph Style" when no document is open to "None" and proceed.

You still have a swatch named "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" that is in use. I suspect, that fill color "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" is part of the "invisible" "No Paragraph Style" paragraph style. And "Basic Paragraph Style" is based on "No Paragraph Style".

Just tested this by scripting (ExtendScript/JavaScript) and can confirm my assumption.

One can address the "No Paragraph Style" by the index of 0 of the paragraph styles collection of the app (that means InDesign) like that:

app.paragraphStyles[0].paragraphShadingColor.name;

will return "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0".

And one cannot change this. Even by scripting.

Trying to assign "None" to the paragraph shading color property as value

app.paragraphStyles[0].paragraphShadingColor = "None";

will throw an error.

So "C=100 M=0 Y=0 K=0" will stay with us for a long time, I suspect ;-)

Uwe

LarstownAuthor

Participating Frequently

Thanks Uwe!

Just quite annoying...

For example:

If I have a document that will be printed in b/w (like a book inlay) – I like to remove all swatches so that I'm 100% sure that no text is still set in color.

Lars

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