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Bpossum
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May 14, 2019
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White text on colored background disappeared in pdf - ID2018

  • May 14, 2019
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So, here is my (sad) story: a book printed with no titles at all, a second book printed with random words of the titles (white titles on an orange background). The paragraph style sheet has correct overprint settings, the text box in the master page has correct overprint settings. If I select the text box in the regular page the overprint settings are correct, but if I highlight the text, in the Attributes panel 'overprint filling' is checked in pale gray so that I can't change the attributes. If I select and move the box forth and back, the overprint check disappear. Any suggestions, except an exorcism? I have to explain to a customer why his production of graded readings, this year, would be taken to waste without losing his confidence.

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vinny38
vinny38
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May 14, 2019

Hi

I can recreate the issue by applying a character style where "overprint fill" is checked.

You can check that out.

Also, I would highly recommend using a preflight profile where "White or [paper] overprints" - or even "overprint applied in Indd" - is set up.

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    LaubenderCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    May 14, 2019

    Hi Bpossum ,

    change the view of the page to "Overprint Preview".

    Can you still see the text?

    If no, select the text frame and check the attributes of the text frame.

    Window > Output > Attributes

    Could be that it is set to "Non Printing".

    EDITED:

    Hm. Your screenshot is showing that "Non Stampabile" is not checked.

    Maybe there is in an effect applied to the text of the text frame like "Multiply" ?

    Regards,
    Uwe

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    BpossumAuthor
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    May 14, 2019

    Hi Uwe,

    thanks for your reply. It's an overprint issue so if I select Overprint preview I can't see the text. But what I'm trying to understand is why it occurred as I haven't changed any options and every year I use a previous printed file of the same editorial series (to maintain master pages, style sheets, etc) for the new ones.

    If you look at the screenshots, the first one shows that in the Paragraph Style sheet the overprint is correct, but in the Attributes panel it is not (and it is unmodifiable, pale grey).

    The windows is set to 'print'.

    Thanks

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    BpossumAuthor
    Known Participant
    May 15, 2019

    I can confirm Vinny's #5 example where there is a Character Style set to Overprint but no color chosen. That allows you to Overprint the Paper swatch which is typically protected from overprints:

    It may be that your previous pre press person disabled any overprints from the RIP. It's not unusual for printers to prevent any color other than Black from overprinting for exactly this reason. If I'm trying to overprint a color for an effect, I'll use the Multiply effect, so I don't get in the way of the trapping.


    I can confirm that the color of the text in the original English project was black. After this I will always check PDFs turning  overprint preview on! And I will customize Indesign preliminary verify for overprint issues.  

    Thanks everybody!

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