Why do some links not show that there is a ICC profile

[Mateomono]

Hi,

I have a couple of Illustrator graphics linked in my InDesign file. However, I noticed that some of them don’t display an ICC profile, while others do. The printer mentioned that my file needs to be in Uncoated FOGRA 52. Why might this be happening? Should I worry about it, or does it not matter as long as the InDesign file is set up with the required color profile?

Thank you!

 

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

Have you created all the Illustrator files?

[Mateomono]

@Robert at ID-Tasker Yes, they are all from illustrator. 

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

Robert at ID-Tasker Yes, they are all from illustrator. 

By Mateomono

But have you created all of them? 

Or received from different sources? 

[Mateomono]

@Robert at ID-Tasker I created all of them. But as mentioned above, is this an issue if the correct color profile is set up in InDesign?

[Peter Spier]

Robert at ID-Tasker I created all of them. But as mentioned above, is this an issue if the correct color profile is set up in InDesign?

By Mateomono

Depends on what you consider an issue. With no embedded profile the illustration will be treated as being in the assigned document color space.

[Mateomono]

@Peter Spier

But if the AI and ID file should be in the same color space, then it should be ok even if it's not embedded in AI. Did I understand this correctly?

[Peter Spier]

If the linked file was created in a different color space the appearance will be affected. The result would be the same as if using Convert to Profile - Preserve Numbers during export. How much the colors will shift depends on the profiles and may or may not be noticeable.

The upside to not embedding the profile is that any pure colors are preserved.

[Mike Witherell]

Historically, the reason that .ai files don't show an .icc profile in InDesign's Links panel is because an .ai file can hold both RGB and CMYK elements. In my experience, the Links panel never shows icc info. I'm wondering how your one example does show color profile?

In order to be thorough, you could examine each .ai file in Illustrator and click on Edit > Assign Profile

But if you have the same default house colorspace management in both Illustrator and InDesign, then any file that doesn't have that colorspace .icc info attached within it will pick up the same colorspace default info when it "File > Places" into InDesign.

Are your apps synchronized for same colorspace defaults?

[Mateomono]

@Mike Witherell Im not sure if my apps are synchronized. How can I check this?

[Mike Witherell]

By going to Photoshop > Edit > Color Settings

and setting up your favorite "house rules" for working colorspaces.

Save and name a .CSF file.

Then go to Bridge > Edit > Color Settings

and choose that named .CSF color settings file and click OK.

This synchronizes the same "house rules" for color management into InDesign, Illustrator, and sometimes Acrobat, too.

When you open InDesign > Edit > Color Settings

and

When you open Illustrator > Edit > Color Settings

you see the same color management settings that you decided upon when you were setting this up in Photoshop.

The big three are now harmoniously keeping everything as the same .icc profile. IOW, synchronized.

[Mike Witherell]

Can you share Quadrant_Chart_EN.ai?

[Mateomono]

@Mike Witherell

I didn't set up my file like that. Is that an issue? Also, wouldn't you want me to share a different graphic with you? Quadrant_Chart.ai seems to have the correct ICC profile.

[Mike Witherell]

And that is why I want to see it. For years, .AI files do not show an icc profile in the InDesign Links panel. How did you get that to happen?

(This may be one of those moments when I discover something everyone else knew already.)

[Mateomono]

@Mike Witherell Attached the file. But is it a issue? 

[Laubender]

@Mateomono said: "… Attached the file."

Hi @Mateomono ,

sorry, but the AI file is not attached.

To attach a file to a reply here in the forum you have to use the forum's editor. Sending an attament when answering by mail is not possible.

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

[Mateomono]

@Laubender 

Thank you for letting me know. 

How can I do this? 

[Laubender]

@Mateomono , to attach a file to an answer, visit this thread, work the Answer button and attach the file through the blue link below the edit field. From my German Firefox:

Regards,
Uwe Laubender
( Adobe Community Expert )

[Robert at ID-Tasker]

Laubender 

Thank you for letting me know. 

How can I do this? 

By Mateomono

Or you can drag&drop from the folder on your drive.