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Is there a way in InDesign to convert all text to outline? I would prefer not to go to every single page and click on the text block then convert to outline. I tried to find a way to do it in Find/Change... but nothing.

A bit of what the file is, I am sending addresses to be printed on envelopes. InDesign is the best option with using Data Merge from a .csv file but it would be nice to convert all text without having to convert everying in Adobe Acrobat Pro. Please don't respond with I shouldn't be converting to outlines.

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Need to convert all text to outline

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Is there a way in InDesign to convert all text to outline? I would prefer not to go to every single page and click on the text block then convert to outline. I tried to find a way to do it in Find/Change... but nothing.

A bit of what the file is, I am sending addresses to be printed on envelopes. InDesign is the best option with using Data Merge from a .csv file but it would be nice to convert all text without having to convert everying in Adobe Acrobat Pro. Please don't respond with I shouldn't be converting to outlines.

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Just curious, why do you want to convert all text to outline? 

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Because I have had text/fonts appear fine on the screen in the PDF (looks fine on my screen, looks fine on print shop screen) but print wrong. Letters getting cut off to the point of a persons name missing letters completely. It was fixed by converting all text to outline.

 

I tend to use fancy fonts for weddings because that is what they want. I can't take the chance of having something go wrong with the file and I don't have the option of getting a proof printed. I am just looking for a faster way to do this while still in InDesign.

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You're either using low quality fonts, low quality printers or both.

I've been doing this for a long time and I've never had that happen. I've seen my share of other issues in the olden days but nothing even resembling that.

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It was a font downloaded from Adobe Fonts. I would think it should be high quality.

I have had it happen, so I will be converting all text to outline. I was just looking for a faster way of doing it.

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Is there a way in InDesign to convert all text to outline?

I'm sure this could be scripted, but no, it's not within the standard feature set of InDesign.

 

Please don't respond with I shouldn't be converting to outlines.

Ok, but will you tell us why are you converting to outlines?

 

~Barb

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Because I have had text/fonts appear fine on the screen in the PDF (looks fine on my screen, looks fine on print shop screen) but print wrong. Letters getting cut off to the point of a persons name missing letters completely. It was fixed by converting all text to outline.

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The simple answer is no!

 

The simple and best way to convert all text in a document (in this case InDesign) is to export PDF from InDesign (preferably PDF/X-4) and in Acrobat Pro DC, use the Preflight profile Convert text to outlines. This comprehensively converts absolutely all text in the PDF to outlines and you still have live text in your InDesign document.

 

That having been said, there are very few and rare occasions in which there is any reason to convert text to outlines. If you have a print service provider that demands such conversion, it is indicative of a vendor who has ancient coal powered, steam driven RIPs or more likely is ignorant of current best practices, relying instead on old myths and legends. If your print service provider really believes this garbage about converting text to outlines, s/he likely is doing other foolish things in terms of end-to-end publishing workflows (such as demanding conversion of all images to CMYK and flattening all transparency). You may want to start looking for an alternative print service provider ASAP!

 

               - Dov

- Dov Isaacs, Principal Scientist, Adobe

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Thank you for replying.

I won't be looking for a new printer as they are not the one asking for it. I prefer to convert to outlines in InDesign (because I can see the outline of all text). I can't take the chance of any font messing up. I don't need to have live text as this is a copy of the original file.

I want to convert all text to outline because I have had examples where the file looks fine on my screen and the printers computer but still prints with letters cut off or missing.

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Outlining fnts in InDesign is a no go. You loose not only live fonts, you loose underlines, strikethrough, text frame borders, text frame colors, paragraph rules, paragraph frames, automatic numbers, cross references, automatic bullets and other lists and many information more. I strongly recommend not to do it.

Why not Acrobat? There it is a 2-second command to change all text in a document without loosing anything except lie text.

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This is a public forum. You can ask whatever you want but you don't get to dictate the answers.

You already know this is a horrible workflow so whether you like it or not, I'm going to point it out for anyone else reading this.

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Check out these scripts.

Also, you can do it in Acrobat.

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the links you posted are not working, do you have a script to convert the entire document to outlines?

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Don't do it in InDesign as it causes multiple changes in the appearance in the document!!!!

 

Do it in Acrobat Pro.

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If you have the InDesign script, please post. 

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I agree it would be nice to be able to convert the whole document to outlines. Instead of page by page

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