P: Edit/Sync Photo changes the Capture Time.

[Cameron Braun]

I use Lightroom for culling through wedding photos, and as of yesterday's update, any time I increase or decrease the rating of an image (or apply any other kind of edit) it will add 4 hours to the capture time, therefore sending that photo to a random place later in the collection, only for me to find it again as I'm moving through. In fact, it just happened twice, as I edited a photo that had already been changed, and it added 4 more. What in the world??? This could prove to be exceptionally annoying.

Photos are syncing.

LR version 14.1

MacOS 14.7.1

M1 Max

[AJ1969vsx]

Hallo zusammen.

Wenn ich ein Foto bearbeite oder zuschneide etc, verändert das die Aufnahmezeit. Es wird nach vorne versetzt. Sortiere ich jetzt nach Aufnahmezeit in der Bibliothek, so werden mir diese Fotos nun als erstes angezeigt.

Vor der Bearbeitung.

Dann Foto bearbeiten und Ordner synchronisieren.

Jeder Bearbeitungsschritt scheint die Uhrzeit zu verändern.
Man sieht es auch oben in den Informationen.

Wie kann man das wieder ändern, das sich die Zeit nicht verändert?

Dieser Fehler zieht sich durch bis in die App, wo dann die Bilder auch mit der falschen Uhrzeit angezeigt werden.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

We've opened a ticket for the Classic Team to investigate this behavior. 

[wleiphoto]

So, after I've opened a raw for edit in PS from lightroom classic, the original raw's date/time created has constantly keep changing every couple minutes from orifinal create date. noticed this as i have sort by create date. happens with multiple files. ever since dec 11 update

[eric_brb]

It appears every edit I made since Lightroom udpated (from 14.0.1 to 14.1 on Windows 11) earlier this morning has automatically bumped the capture time in my photos.  Fortunately I can simply "Revert Capture Time to Original" to fix, but the auto-capture-time-change behavior was driving me mad (especially when I was filtering photos to be from a specific day...and they'd disappear as soon as I made any adjustments).  I think the time stamps were being adjusted ahead by 8 hours...which sorta makes sense since I took the photos in Morocco with my camera properly set to that timezone, but I'm editing them back home (on Pacific Standard Time).  Technically, I think the offset should have been 9 hours...8 hours would be the difference from UTC to PST, but regardless I did NOT want the capture time to be adjusted at all!  I can't find any setting that would enable or disable such behavior.

I've rolled back to 14.0.1 and the problem is no longer present, so I am assuming this is just a bug in the latest update.

[Rangali]

As said I had completely deactivated my cloud sync ...
Then I manually corrected the date and time of all those pics that had been screwed before.
Then I started sync again (but just for a short time).
Saw that everything happened as before (time is getting set to prior times/dates).
What I realized though ...
Seems to having affected only pics that I had imported from my iPhone (no RAW/NEFs as far as I can see).
Seems also like those "critical pics" are all sesequently from a specific day (at least that's what I found thus far).
Does it say anything to the Devs?

[Rangali]

No, sorry, my bad ... it seems to affecting also RAW/NEF files

[Panta Rhei]

Same behaviour for me on macOS 15.2, also with roundtrip editing PSD files from Lightroom classic to Photoshop and back to LR. Date/time of file is shifting

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

To be clear - which timestamp is changing? 

[Oliver Andrews]

@Cameron Braun "Original Time" in the "Edit Capture Time" dialog is the current capture time set on the selected item (image, virtual copy, etc), if it's been changed from the actual original time then it shows the changed time. "Corrected Time" is what the dialog will change it to, so without an adjustment specified they both show the same.

[Cameron Braun]

@Oliver Andrews Thanks for clarifying. @JohanElzenga helped with this earlier too. I misunderstood how that dialog box works.

That being said, it's quite clear many others are suffering the same bug that I originally posted, and it would appear something is wrong with Syncing.

[Armand Jacobs Photo]

Deffinitely. I can also confirm that the problem is at the sync level : turning off the sync stops the problem from occuring.

[JohanElzenga]

I checked some more photos, and found a few with two hour shift rather than four hours. That may mean that I am experiencing a two hour shift after all, and that the images with four hour shifts actually had two times this shift before I even noticed it.

[joesao]

LRC v. 14.1 on MacOS 15.1.1

This is such a strange bug, I made a short 18 second video to show it to you.

I have a series of photos of California Condors taken in burst mode. The middle one is synched to Adobe Cloud for online sharing. 

For some odd reason, LRC shifted the capture time +10 hours on that photo.

"Great, who cares," you ask. 

Well, I care because I'm sharing a bunch of photos, and the order of those photos matters. 

I have them sorted by "Capture Time" and I'm noticing that the order keeps changing. And now I know why: LRC is changing the capture time for synched photos!

This is a very annoying little bug... here's the short video, look at the metadata on the top left:

https://youtu.be/BJYkEbx5CaU

Thanks.

[Gregg Mack]

Yesterday I updated to Lightroom Classic v14.1, on my Window 11 desktop.

I have been working on reprocessing photos from a prior vacation, and I have been working in only one folder of photos, named 2019_07_14_Orkney_Islands_Scotland.  Several of the photos in this folder are also included in 5 or 6 different Collections (Flower, Location Portraits, Family Members, Select from Orkney, etc.).  I had the Sort Order set to Capture Time for this folder, but then I noticed that as I was working my way through this folder, the photos would magically re-arrange themselves to random positions within the Grid View of this Folder. Fortunately I had previously renamed the photos in chronological order so that changing the Sort Order to Filename could show them in the proper sequence.

After 3 or 4 hours of futzing around, I determined that it was the photos that were members of the Synchronized Folders that were automagically having the Capture Time, and sometimes the Capture Date change.

I deleted those 44 photos from all of the collections that they were members of, and also had then deleted them from All Synced Photos. I made sure that they were not visible to any longer on my iPhone, iPad, the Lightroom website.  I turned off my iPhone and my iPad. I selected the effected 44 photos and from the Lightroom Classic Metadata menu, I chose the Revert to Original Capture Time, which seems to have worked correctly.  I then added all of the photos to a non-synced Collection - and the Capture Time and Capture Date stayed set to the correct time/dates.

I then added one photo to the synced Flowers Collection and one photo to the Location Portraits synced Collection.  It doesn't happen immediately, but within 30 seconds or so, the Capture Time will certainly change, and if the Capture Date changes it is for 2 to 3 days into the future.

Right now, I'm reluctant to continue reprocessing any photos that are included in any synchronized Collections.

[idrewthis]

I've just spent about an hour in LrC and a few files I've worked on in that time have progressively had their "Date Time Original" stamp moved earlier and earlier. One photo changed so many times, LrC was reporting it was taken more than a month before I actually took it.

I can confirm that it's only happening to synced files and that pausing sync stops it from happening.

Also, in Library module, choosing 'Metadata > Revert Capture Time to Original' has the desired effect of correcting the wrong "Date Time Original" stamp to correspond with the correct "Date Time" and "Date Time Digitized" stamps.

[derMueller]

The issue appears with newest versions of LRc and LR and only if images are imported via LR to LRc. I have also recognized this issue this week first time after latest update. One thing, changing date and time manually makes the thing even worse, the LR (or LRc) changes again to a different date (either day or hour; I have not recognized change minutes).  

[derMueller]

.... one other thing. LR does not change to a definite time (eg from capturing to editing). I have images changes to a month ago.  Very strange error. 

[Armand Jacobs Photo]

I am pretty sure that the pictures I have the problem with were neither imported or edited in LR. They went the full way from importation to problem occuring on LRC.
As stated earlier the problem seems to be on the sync process

[Armand Jacobs Photo]

Several users stated that the time shift occured several time (probably at each sync) and that made theses pictures timestamp go back to several days, weeks or even months. It is likely what happened in your case

[Oliver Andrews]

Same, Lr has no involvement in my editing process, I don't even have it installed. All photos were imported directly into LrC and edited either in LrC or Ps. This issue only appeared once I was done editing and synced the collection they were in to the cloud.

[derMueller]

Interim solution: change back to LRc 14.0.1 select photos which have wrong date and time. Then go to Metadata; change to original capture time. Then all is set correct again. Wait for a bugfix from Adobe. 

[Rangali]

I actually went back to LrC 14.0.1 and at least Cloud Sync was no longer proactively changing the capture dates of my files. So I went ahead and (AGAIN!) manually corrected capture dates of all affected files. Then I realized that the changed capture dates were NOT synced back to LR cloud (i.e. for the same image, I saw different capture dates on LrC desktop and the iPhone that syncs to LR cloud). I then tried to change those files on my iPhone (where the capture date was still wrong) and again that wrong capture date was synchronized back to LrC desktop (it seems like the cloud is synchronizing with LrC desktop, but not the other way around ... at least not when it comes to capture date). I then corrected those files again in LrC desktop and forced LrC to write the metadata into the file (or sidecar file). Then (finally) it started syncing correctly back to the cloud.

Tl;dr: I rolled back to LrC 14.0.1, corrected all affected files (with wrong capture date) in LrC, and forced LrC to write the updated metadata to the files. That did the trick for me. I'll keep investigating what's going on and report back if I find anything new. But at least for now, I'll certainly stick with LrC 14.0.1.     

[JohanElzenga]

I think that the conclusion that this is a bug in the 14.1 application, and so downgrading to 14.0.1 is the solution, is premature. This could also be a bug in the server software, that just happened to occur around the same time that Lightroom Classic was updated to 14.1.

[Armand Jacobs Photo]

It could be.
However in this case it is very likely that people who downgraded to 14.0.1 would still be facing the issue and it seems they do not experience the problem anylonger.

[Armand Jacobs Photo]

As far as I am concerned I did not downgrade. I can fullfill the photo report I am working on without it being sync to the cloud so I just paused the sync for now.