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P: Panels and filmstrip black when switching to Develop

Community Beginner ,
Sep 25, 2016 Sep 25, 2016

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Not sure if this is the right place for a bug report, if not could anyone direct me to the right place please.

Clicking develop module at top right from the Library module opens the photo with film strip and both side bars black empty spaces. Initial few times I had to quit and restart Lightroom but then discovered switching to grid view again and develop keyboard short cut, everything comes back.
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Adobe Employee , Dec 13, 2017 Dec 13, 2017
Hi all,

As Simon and Jeff have already mentioned in this thread, please make sure your macOS is updated to at least macOS Sierra 10.12 and at least Lightroom Classic 7.0 or Lightroom 6.13.

The best combo to avoid this issue is being on macOS High Sierra 10.13 and Lightroom Classic 7.1 or Lightroom 6.13.

The team has worked pretty hard with Apple to get this issue to stop appearing with macOS Sierra 10.12 and macOS High Sierra 10.13. Improvements were made in 10.12 and iterated upon for 10.13.

If yo...

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Adobe Employee , Oct 27, 2017 Oct 27, 2017
Hi Steve,

As noted before, this is a bug introduced at the macOS level. Through collaboration with Apple, they have made a fix in the later version of the macOS update. So the right thing to do is to update to the more recent version of macOS when possible.

Having said that, Lr team have done our best to workaround this issue for the cases that we can reproduce for macOS 10.11.6. But there is a limit can Lr can do.

Hope you understand the situation.

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Adobe Employee , Apr 11, 2017 Apr 11, 2017
This should now work correctly in Lightroom CC2015.10/6.10 or later on macOS Sierra (10.12) or later. Don't hesitate to let us know if you see the issue again on the current macOS, and if you do, what triggers it.  Please update your system and let us know if you have any additional issues. 


Additional information on this update can be found here: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2017/04/lightroom-cc-2015-10-now-available.html

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LEGEND ,
Apr 17, 2017 Apr 17, 2017

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Just released by Adobe, new version of LR CC, with bug improvements for black out panels, Version 2015.10 with Camera Raw 9.10.   Maybe not totally resolved, but been working with it for 4 hours with no black outs.   

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Explorer ,
Apr 17, 2017 Apr 17, 2017

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Adobe just release version 2015.10 with Camera RAW 9.10 in which they mention this release addressed Lightroom bugs with panel black outs

Been working with it for 4 hours without suffering panel black outs!
Hope this resolves the issue for good!!!
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LEGEND ,
Apr 17, 2017 Apr 17, 2017

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I installed the new .10 update. Then I imported some photos taken on Easter and several of them had a pink cast. I remembered to post about off slider behavior and went back and looked and those with the pink cast had a custom white balance. I never use custom
white balance and always use "As Shot". I've never had this happen before.

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New Here ,
Apr 17, 2017 Apr 17, 2017

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Rikk Flor:
The slider problem seems to be resolved after following steps to restart and reset preferences.
Thanks For your help.
-Gordon 

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 18, 2017 Apr 18, 2017

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Thanks for the update!
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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Explorer ,
Apr 18, 2017 Apr 18, 2017

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additional new info and problem...as noted above everything was working fine. But then today I taught a class and ran into the panels problem. I had the school update to .10, I was teaching the slideshow module and the audio issue was fixed. Yay! But close to the end of my demo the panels went black ! I had just added a music file to the slideshow. I was on the following system...OS X El Capitan, iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2015), 2.8 GHz, intel Core i5, Memory 16GB, Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200 1536 MB

The catalog was on external hard drive, which I used last night teaching on an older laptop, and prepared todays demo on my own computer listed above. I returned to my own computer and tested all the same functions on my working catalog, then closed it and opened the teaching catalog. The panels eventually went black again...the first time on my computer since 2015.10. It was as if the catalog carried the problem back to my computer. I am so disappointed! Tomorrow at school I will try resetting the preferences. I'll keep you posted. If you have other recommendations please let me know.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 21, 2017 Apr 21, 2017

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I can report that the same issue started occurring immediately after I updated to 2015.10CC. 

Running 10.11.6 Capitan on late 2012 27" iMac with 2.9GHz Core i5, 24GB 1600MHz DDR3 Ram

I did not experience this problem until my most recent update to 2015.10

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 21, 2017 Apr 21, 2017

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Andy, 

We are still seeing the issue on El Capitan but not getting reports on Sierra.  One of the recommendations for this issue is to upgrade your system to Sierra. Is that an option for you?

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/lightroom-panels-black-issue.html
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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LEGEND ,
Apr 21, 2017 Apr 21, 2017

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Hi Rikk, 
An upgrade to Sierra is possible but not ideal, as I would prefer to keep all of my machines in Capitan, regardless of whether or not each machine runs lightroom. 

Is Adobe working on a solution for Capitan users and if so, is there an expected solution date? 

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 21, 2017 Apr 21, 2017

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Additional work is being done on this issue but there is no ETA available. 
Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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LEGEND ,
Apr 21, 2017 Apr 21, 2017

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Cool. Thanks for the update and continued work on the issue. 

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Participant ,
Apr 22, 2017 Apr 22, 2017

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I can't update to Sierra--my IMac is too old.  At this point, Lightroom is useless to me, what do you suggest I do. 

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LEGEND ,
Apr 22, 2017 Apr 22, 2017

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Have you tried rolling back to a prior edition of Lightroom?  I had success reverting to LR CC 2015.7.  Instructions to do so are posted above somewhere.

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Explorer ,
Apr 23, 2017 Apr 23, 2017

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I am on MacOs Sierra 10.12.4 and updated most recent version of Lightroom 2015.10 and I have not had any issues with black outs since.

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Participant ,
Apr 23, 2017 Apr 23, 2017

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Haven't tried rolling back yet.  Will do so soon---Obviously the problem still exists with El Capitan. 

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New Here ,
Apr 24, 2017 Apr 24, 2017

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Lightroom CC 2015.10 is working okay now with macOS 10.12.4  Sierra. The black panel problem has gone.

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Explorer ,
Apr 24, 2017 Apr 24, 2017

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Update...as mentioned above, the problem seemed to be fixed in the beta and .10 version,  BUT in using my travel drive for teaching it re-occurred on new iMac with El Capitan (see details in previous comment), upon using that same hard drive on my own computer the problem re-appeared. And now when I use my actual catalog (instead os teaching catalog) the problem has re-appeared. And is as frequent as before. My computer is one model too old to upgrade to Sierra so unless a solution comes soon I will have to roll back to older Lightroom. I am hoping for a solution!

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Adobe Employee ,
Apr 24, 2017 Apr 24, 2017

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I suspect your other system has Sierra on it. The workaround put in place works more better with Sierra. One of the recommendations for this issue is to upgrade your system to Sierra. Is that an option for you?

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/lightroom-panels-black-issue.html

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Explorer ,
Apr 25, 2017 Apr 25, 2017

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No, my computer is 2008, Sierra is not an option. My schools computers are new, no problem there except the time involved to update,. (Which is an issue this time of year) But for my own purposes in a few days if nothing else works, I will roll back lightrom. Too bad! the beta had been working for me.

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LEGEND ,
Apr 27, 2017 Apr 27, 2017

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Random Update: my machine & lightroom seem to be running fine this week and the black panel problem has yet to reoccur during frequent daily use. Which is weird since I haven't changed a thing update/operating system wise. 

Notes: Lr CC 2015.10, Late 2012 2.9Ghz i5 27" iMac with 24GB DDR3 ram

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Explorer ,
Apr 29, 2017 Apr 29, 2017

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I guess I should update to Sierra as I am still having the issue with 2015.10 on Capitain. thanks for the heads up.  

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Explorer ,
May 10, 2017 May 10, 2017

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Ever since my last update to 2015.10, I've been plagued by the panel blackout issue....

any solutions/fixes? Given the subscription rates I'm charged, would be nice to see this resolved.....

-LR CC 2015.10 Release, Camera Raw 9.10, Build 1111918,  Mac El Capitan, ver 10.11.6
- iMac (27-inch, Late 2012)
- 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
-16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2048 MB

Thanks,

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Explorer ,
May 10, 2017 May 10, 2017

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This works, but it's irritating to do this while trying to cull and perform quick edits. Am I going to have to jump ship to ON1?????

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Explorer ,
May 10, 2017 May 10, 2017

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When I updated to 2015.10 the blackout issues began...was fine prior to this...

-LR CC 2015.10 Release, Camera Raw 9.10, Build 1111918,  Mac El Capitan, ver 10.11.6
- iMac (27-inch, Late 2012)
- 3.4 GHz Intel Core i7
-16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
-NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2048 MB

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Adobe Employee ,
May 10, 2017 May 10, 2017

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There are still issues with El Cap. Customers on Sierra are reporting the problem goes away.

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