P: Spot removal removing brush stroke

[derekr37029557]

So I am using the brush tool on some of my photos and after that I decided to use the spot removal tool. Upon doing so it removed more than the spot. It actually ended up removing separate brush strokes I have made. I am not sure how this is possible but please look into this. 

[Rick Spaulding -]

Can you provide screenshots or a screen recording of what you are seeing?

[COBill]

If it just removed the brush effect under the spot, that's what I'd expect. If larger than the spot then that would not be expected. 

[derekr37029557]

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qfIdGyYRGTU" style="max-width: 100%; max-height: 100%;" width="640px"></iframe>

sure hope this shows it

[derekr37029557]

that's exactly what is happening but on a larger scale. I just posted a video of it. 

[derekr37029557]

Of course, I hope it helps

[COBill]

On Windows, it does exactly what I'd expect. 

• took a freckled area of skin
• darkened it with the brush 
• used spot removal to remove both dark and light spots 
• no effect on the brushed area either under the spot removal or in the adjoining area
• same result with
• both Clone and Heal

Watched the video and couldn't see what you are trying to illustrate. Suggest that you focus on just one area with a single brush stroke and a single spot removal. You move around to fast and show too many areas. Just focus on one. Shot before and after with the brush then remove one spot and show that result. 

[derekr37029557]

The spot removal is effecting other brush strokes. It is literally removing parts of the stroke. If you watch it a bit closely you'll see the highlighted areas where I selected to edit with the stroke were removed after I applied the spot removal. It's whacky. Hopeful this gets patched soon cause it's a pretty big glitch.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Derek,

I stepped through your video frame-by-frame and was particularly interested in the 20-24 second area of the video.  I noticed that though the brush overlay (green) does change after application of the spot heal but that it doesn't appear that the actual effect are is changed - only the overlay. 

Can you confirm this?

Does it happen on all images or just this image? Can you replicate this with a much more obvious adjustment so we can confirm whether this is an overlay artifact or an actual effect problem?

[derekr37029557]

So I can confirm it actually removes the effect of the brush. That one was a texture softening effect and once the spot removal was applied I noticed the softening was removed as well. I didn't want to change it because I am not sure if the glitch was a code read error due to the circumstances I applied but it had the same result on multiple photos in that collection. I removed some grass in another photo after applying the brush stroke and noticed it did the same effect where it removed the brush stroke I added. I will attempt to replicate it for you. 

[derekr37029557]

<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/6YOdSSx33yg" style="max-width: 100%; max-height: 100%;" width="640px"></iframe>

Here is another video of the glitch I am experiencing with more dramatic colors to show the spot removal is effecting the brush stroke edit as well. 

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

I am not able to duplicate this on either Mac or Windows. Based on this, I would recommend resetting your preferences

Reset Procedure:

1. Close Lightroom.

2. Hold down [Alt/Opt]+[Shift] while restarting Lightroom.

3. Overwrite the Preferences when prompted by the dialog.

4. Close Lightroom.

5. Restart Lightroom.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Thanks for the information. We've logged a bug to investigate.

[Jerry Syder]

Tested and confirmed this on my end, too. Win 10 - I haven't tested thoroughly but seeing it when Exposure and/ or Shadows is used in the brush

[COBill]

Overview

1. very slow, about 2-3 seconds per spot vs instantaneous on V9.4 
2. like was reported for MacOS users, removing a spot undoes a brush stroke

I've been trying to recreate the MacOS problem on Windows and finally did it by accident. This is a freshly imported image. Below are screen captures:

1. before brush 
   
   
   
   
   
   
2. after brush
   
   
   
   
   
   
3. after removing one spot 
   
   
   
   
   Depending on the spot, different areas of the bag are affected. 

Just FYI, this is a velvet bag for a Sony headset that could find lint in a NASA clean room. 

[COBill]

Update:

1. exported image 2 as a 4K jpeg
2. imported jpeg 
3. performance restored, instantaneous spot removal
4. excellent results

So the trick (technique) until we get a fix:

1. perform all edits except spot removal
2. export image as a jpeg
3. import
4. remove spots 

[drtonyb]

I've tried reproducing this problem and have been unable to get LrC 10 to misbehave.

Bill, can you provide more detailed steps with screen shots of brush work and spot removal?

[fredf17205859]

I would add that since I use both LR and PS (along with others) in my workflow. I save all of my spot removal for PS. It is much more reliable and flexible. I have a brush preset that I use in Quick Mask mode utilizing content-aware. With it, I can remove any spots, most items, changing sizes on the fly as well as removing long spots or items, overhead wires, cracks in sidewalks, the dividing crease between cement blocks, etc.

[COBill]

Anthony, 

I guess I don't understand what you want in addition to what I already supplied. Let me know and I'll do it sometime on Thursday. 

[elie_dinur]

I had the same thing happen yesterday; spot removal in a previously brushed area caused part of the brushwork to disappear, but then removing a second spot caused it to come back. Also several seconds wait for each spot correction to be applied, sometimes with display blackout in the interval. Today I will try working with GPU turned off. Windows 10, LrC 10.

[elie_dinur]

With GPU turned off everything works fine; instant spot heal and local adjustments. No blackouts. 27 in., 2460x1440 resolution display, Win 10.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I am having this same problem.

Using Mac version of Adobe Lightroom Classic v10.0

[Cams Pix]

I'm having the same issues. Windows based

[COBill]

Trick, but not a resolution, use spot removal as the last step in the develop process while we wait for a fix from Adobe. 

The strange thing, is that the problem exists on one photo and then not on another. I've yet to find a pattern. 

[Cams Pix]

Bill I find that's when the problem arises.  I have better luck if I do spot removal at the beginning of the development process.  Doing it AFTER local adjustments is when it spits the dummy out.

[COBill]

I attached samples earlier to show that it is working the other way for me, however I've since discovered that the problem on my system is completely random. Most of the time, it doesn't happen at all. My Lightroom is completely without any sort of mods, plug-ins, presets, etc.; straight out of the box from Adobe.