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Holten
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May 4, 2025
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AI Denoise dialog does not include layers with removed objects.

  • May 4, 2025
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AI Denoise makes removed objects appear. 

How to reproduce:

1) Remove a part of an image using remove tool (AI or legacy)
2) Open the AI Denoise dialog.

Expected result: The removed object should remain removed even in the denoise dialog.

Actual Result: In the preview box, the removed detail is now back (See images).

Correct answer johnrellis

This is by design. Denoise always applies to the original raw without any develop settings applied. That's why the Enhance Preview shows you just the denoised raw, not any other develop settings. After Denoise completes, the develop settings on the original are copied to the DNG, including any Remove settings.


If you don't like this design, you could post a feature request to do it differently.

 

"Some removal layers in the original image seems not to be included in the denoised image."

 

Please share the raw here so we can see where the problem might be. In Library, select the raw and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Then upload the raw and its .xmp sidecar to Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive or similar free service and post the sharing link here.

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johnrellis
johnrellisCorrect answer
Legend
May 4, 2025

This is by design. Denoise always applies to the original raw without any develop settings applied. That's why the Enhance Preview shows you just the denoised raw, not any other develop settings. After Denoise completes, the develop settings on the original are copied to the DNG, including any Remove settings.


If you don't like this design, you could post a feature request to do it differently.

 

"Some removal layers in the original image seems not to be included in the denoised image."

 

Please share the raw here so we can see where the problem might be. In Library, select the raw and do Metadata > Save Metadata To File. Then upload the raw and its .xmp sidecar to Wetransfer, Dropbox, Google Drive or similar free service and post the sharing link here.

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    HoltenAuthor
    Known Participant
    May 17, 2025

    Is there a way of sending you such an image without disclosing it to the whole community?
    The bug seems to show up when several layers of AI-removal are on top of each other (since it sometimes is needed to use several layers to reach the desired effect). The bug never reveals itself if only one layer is involved.

    johnrellis
    johnrellis
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    May 17, 2025

    You could send the sharing link in a private message to me. Click "johnrellis" at the top of one of the previous messages and then click Message in the upper-left corner under my avatar and name.

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    HoltenAuthor
    Known Participant
    May 4, 2025

    It seemes to worse than I first thought. Some removal layers in the original image seems not to be included in the denoised image. Which ones seems a mystery to me, but I had to remove things in the AI-denoised image again. This is actually dangerous. If I blur out a face of a person with protected identity (witnesses, beaten wifes etc), and suddenly the face is back without me seeing that just because I denoised an image...  It might be done in batch...

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