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AUTO and PROFILES are greyed out

New Here ,
Nov 06, 2024 Nov 06, 2024

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Hi, recently updated Lighttroom Classic to 14.01

Basic Panel now doesn't show the AUTO or PROFILE tabs - they are 'greyed out'

I have gone back a  version and then updated again - no joy!!!

I dare say (hope) this is a simple fix. Anyhow, help.....................

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New Here , Nov 08, 2024 Nov 08, 2024

Looks like a resource issue. Try to zoom in and out on the picture in Develop, the Auto button and profiles should come back within seconds. How many seconds depends on your system's resources.

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New Here ,
Nov 08, 2024 Nov 08, 2024

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Looks like a resource issue. Try to zoom in and out on the picture in Develop, the Auto button and profiles should come back within seconds. How many seconds depends on your system's resources.

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New Here ,
Nov 08, 2024 Nov 08, 2024

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That works

Can't see why the ZOOM facility should cure the features drop-out but, hey it DOES ???

 

MANY THANKS

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New Here ,
Nov 08, 2024 Nov 08, 2024

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Happy it works for you too. I suspect this has something to do with the "Adaptive Profile" that is present in ACR but not in LrC. Apparently the picture needs something done to it for the Auto/Profiles to be activated now. From where I sit, that looks like a bug to be fixed soon enough...

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Explorer ,
Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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Lightroom Classic 14.0.1

Camera Raw 17.0

Windows 10 release 22H2

Since the 14.0.1 update, the "Auto" button in the basic settings (Develop pannel) is grayed out.
Is there something I can do for getting the Auto button back, or is this a known bug of the 14.0.1 relase ?

Thanks for your help.

 

[Moved from ‘Bugs’ to ‘Discussions’ by moderator, according to forum rules.]

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Community Expert ,
Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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If you look at the History panel is Auto setting indicated as a step there?

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.2, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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I see the following on my iMac using LrC 12.5.2

Basic:

Treatment    Color        Black and White.

 

Tone:

Auto         Black and White (The auto button always stays available.)

 

I see the following on my PC using LrC 14.0.1.

Basic:

Auto.              B & W.         HDR ( The auto button becomes unavailable if used)

Tone:

The Auto button has been removed.

There has been a change when the HDR option was added in LrC. So in LrC 14 what I am experiencing is, if the Auto button was used on a particular image it cannot be applied again.

I presume this is working as intended.

 

PS. 3.30 pm Atlantic standard time, I have purged Camera Raw cache, reset Preferences and restarted my Computer and can confirm what I stated above, i.e. when the auto button is selected it gets greyed out, however if one of the basic or tone settings are manually adjusted it gets highlighted again.

Is this the expected behavior? That's how it functions with the Auto button located in LrC 12.5.2 Tone panel.

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.2, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 07, 2025 Jan 07, 2025

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Nope, never used the auto previously on these new shots.  They are raw CR2 shots, and I have used auto on that type before.

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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I'll see this also on my Windows 10 machine. On this is the GPU support deactivated because it's the graphic card doesm't match the requirements. On my other PC (runing with Windows 11 23H2) with a RTX 3060 buildin the GPU support is enabled. Here is the Auto button active.

 

It seems that depends from the graphic device card and/or driver. Check if you have the GPU support enabled and if there's a newer version for your graphic device driver available.

 

You can also try to reset the preferences to the default settings.

 

If this doesn't help, please provide a copy of your 'System Info'. This can be get from the LrC Help > System Info menu item. There's a copy button in the System Info dialog. Press this button and paste the info into your next forum post.

 

 

My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 24H2 -- LR-Classic 14 - Photoshop 26 - Nik Collection 7 - PureRAW 4 - Topaz PhotoAI 3

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Explorer ,
Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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Thnak you for your help.

No, Auto setting is not indicated as a step in history pannel.

The Auto button is grayed out from beginnig, just after importing the picture.

Capture.JPG

 

 

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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It is possible if your Default Develop Settings include to apply the Auto setting.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.2, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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@DdeGannes I've check this on my system and the Auto button is also disabled. In the History panel is only the import step. There's also no default development setting during the import process.

  

My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 24H2 -- LR-Classic 14 - Photoshop 26 - Nik Collection 7 - PureRAW 4 - Topaz PhotoAI 3

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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It may well depend on your system as my Auto button is active:

Ricky336_0-1731859296872.png

 

OS 24H2, GPU GeForce GTX 1050 Ti!, LRC 14.01

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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Thank you for your hlep.

@DdeGannes : There is no default development setting during the import process.

@AxelMatt : I have just realized that the problem doesn't happen on my laptop. My desktop is rather old and has no dedicated GPU, only the one which is integrated in the CPU (Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz). This GPU doesn't work properfly with LR, so I've disabled GPU in LR preferences

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@all of you : things are getting strange ! The "Auto" button is grayed out when I select a picture in the Develop pannel. However, after switching to another picture and then back to the original one, the Auto button becomes active ???? See this short video : https://youtu.be/NKO_C_Ycvqk

 

Lightroom Classic 14.0.1 : the "Auto" button in the basic settings (Develop pannel) is grayed out. However, after switching to another picture and then back to the original one, the Auto button becomes active ????

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LEGEND ,
Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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Normally, when you open a photo in Develop, LR initially greys out Auto and starts calculating in background whether the current develop settings match those that would be applied by Auto. If they're different, then it enables Auto and ungreys it. This typically takes no more than a second or two after opening the photo in Develop, even on older computers.  

 

But in your case, not only is Auto greyed out, but the Profile Browser is also greyed out:

JohnREllis_0-1731867029797.png

 

Someone else recently reported the same symptoms:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/auto-and-profiles-are-greyed-out/m-p/14... 

 

They discovered that you could also enable the Auto and the Profile Browser buttons by zooming to 100% and then back to Fit.

 

In years past, there have been problems with the asynchronous display of other settings in Develop that are worked around by zooming to 100%, e.g.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-quot-built-in-lens-profile-applied-quot-isn-... 

 

Zooming to 100% loads up the Camera Raw cache with the photo as part of rendering it, accelerating the Auto and Lens Profile computations.

 

I believe, based on years of observation and forum posts, that internally, the implementation of Develop is fragile, with many "race conditions" where the correctness of asynchronous computations is timing-dependent.  Such race conditions typically show up only when some part of LR is abnormally delayed, e.g. because LR is running with a slow or absent GPU. or trying to display a very large raw.

 

A couple of things you might try to ameliorate the problem:

 

1. Build 1:1 (100%) previews either on Import or with Library > Previews > Build 1:1 Previews.

 

2. Do Preferences > Performance > Camera Raw Settings > Purge Cache. Perhaps the current cache contents are causing it to perform extra slowly.

 

3. Restart your computer. If the problem persists, try resetting LR's preferences as suggested above by AxelMatt:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/


LR sometimes soils its preferences file, and resetting it can fix all sorts of wonky behavior. That article explains how to restore the old preferences if resetting doesn't help.

 

4. And if none of this helps, then as suggested by AxelMatt, do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

 

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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@johnrellis , you stated "But in your case, not only is Auto greyed out, but the Profile Browser is also greyed out:"

I notice this on both my iMac using LrC 12.5.2 and by PC using LrC 14.0.1, however when I take my mouse to the Profile Browser it highlights and can be clicked to access the profiles.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 23H2, LrC 14.2, ; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.

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Nov 17, 2024 Nov 17, 2024

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Done

My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 24H2 -- LR-Classic 14 - Photoshop 26 - Nik Collection 7 - PureRAW 4 - Topaz PhotoAI 3

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Dec 11, 2024 Dec 11, 2024

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I am also having the same issues too with the latest Update of Lightroom. .ihave updated my windows 11 update also and still has not made no change to fix the problem. Adobe Please fix all the bugs please . and get your act together Screenshot 2024-12-11 203234.pngScreenshot 2024-12-11 203618LR02.jpg

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Community Beginner ,
Dec 13, 2024 Dec 13, 2024

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Confirmed, bug still present, far from 'solved'.

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Jan 02, 2025 Jan 02, 2025

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It really is a pain having to research something like this.  Suddenly everything changes.  Very time consuming.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 07, 2025 Jan 07, 2025

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Does not work for me. 

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Jan 16, 2025 Jan 16, 2025

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same bug in macos 15 (macbook pro M3): auto button not working.

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