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January 9, 2019
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Library Histogram Not Always Available

  • January 9, 2019
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When I'm previewing images in Library Module of Lightroom Classic, the histogram does not show up always. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. I am running a MacBook Pro on Mojave OS. I suspect it's some kind of memory issue, but I don't have the issue when in Develop.

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GoldingD
Legend
January 11, 2019

From your system information

Displays: 1) 3360x2100

Now , I do not remember a MAC Book Pro, including Retina, with that resolution, So is that an external monitor? And as only one display value Is listed, the laptop cover is closed? Or does your rig actually run at 3369x2109?

Got off main issue/subject, returning

Lightroom does not perform well at higher resolutions

2K, Ok

3K, slow, especially in Develop module once you get into brushes (adjustment, graduation, radial)

4K, very slow, can be even in Library if Standard previews too high.

5K, extremely slow, Develop module painfull.

Now, as one member stated, Adobe needs to fix this, we buy nicer monitors for a reason.

But moving on to the here and now,

If this is the laptops screen, you are probably stuck with Apples solution of scaling and cannot actualy truely reduce the resolution, you can however decrease the standard previews to 2K or less, to help in Library, you can decrease your screen size (that is do not run full screen ) to help in develop module, and/or (one I keep forgetting) in Finder, navigate to the Lightroom app, right click and select get info, and check the box to open in low resolution.

oh, some clarity in: Using a Retina display - Apple Support  at least on my previous sentence about low resolution.

If it is a external monitor, decrease the resolution at the monitor, and adjust MAC OS settings as required.

Remember one thing. In Library module the previews created and kept in the lrdata directory (folder) are used. In a Develop mode previews are created on the fly and are stored in the Camera RAW CACHE. Library and Develop use different previews. And in Develop, each time you make an adjustment, a new preview is created. And the more pixels to fill on the display, the more pixels to render when creating Develop previews,

yes, I know, Adobe Adobe Adobe, but to get things working.

All that said, this might have nothing to do with your histogram display issue, but if your issue is that the histogram appearing takes too much time....

GoldingD
Legend
January 9, 2019

Second issue, just a P.S. I notice that your Adobe Creative Cloud Desktop wants your attention. (red dot)

GoldingD
Legend
January 9, 2019

A couple of things

1. Lets clear up some information, in case it helps. To provide a provable answer to what is your system information, in LR click on Help, click on System Information, Click on Copy. Paste results from top to just after presets in a reply, Interested in LR version, CC Licenses status (basicaly that it is not Unknown) OS version, Display resolution, GPU make and GPU driver version, if or if not Direct is running, and a glimps at any odd plugins that are enabled (not likely this issue)

DaBrownCOAuthor
Inspiring
January 11, 2019

Sorry for taking some time to get back on this. The problem is so intermittent and seems to resolve itself from time to time that it isn't a major issue. It would be good to know though if I could be doing something differently that would prevent the problem from happening.

Here is the copy of my configuration:

Lightroom Classic version: 8.1 [ 1200465 ]

License: Creative Cloud

Language setting: en-US

Operating system: Mac OS 10

Version: 10.14.2 [18C54]

Application architecture: x64

Logical processor count: 8

Processor speed: 2.9 GHz

Built-in memory: 16,384.0 MB

Real memory available to Lightroom: 16,384.0 MB

Real memory used by Lightroom: 4,130.9 MB (25.2%)

Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 9,517.1 MB

Memory cache size: 1,138.3MB

Internal Camera Raw version: 11.1 [ 112 ]

Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5

Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX,AVX2

Camera Raw virtual memory: 2349MB / 8191MB (28%)

Camera Raw real memory: 2397MB / 16384MB (14%)

Displays: 1) 3360x2100

Graphics Processor Info:

Metal: AMD Radeon Pro 560

Installed Plugins:

1) AdobeStock

2) Aperture/iPhoto Importer Plug-in

3) Flickr

4) HDR Efex Pro 2

5) ON1 Photo RAW 2018

6) ON1 Resize 2018

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
January 11, 2019

When this occurs, do you then see or not see a Histogram when going into Develop?

Have you tried turning OFF GPU in preferences for awhile to see if the issue goes away?

Have you tried resetting the preferences? https://www.lightroomqueen.com/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

Have you tried updating the previews (Library>Previews>Rebuild 1:1 previews)?

Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
Just Shoot Me
Legend
January 9, 2019

Show us a screen shot of the whole LR window with one of the images selected that does not show a histogram.

Is your Mac plugged in to AC power or on battery when this happens. Are these JPG or RAW images?

DaBrownCOAuthor
Inspiring
January 9, 2019

Hi,

Here is a screenshot. When I opened up the Folder in Library Module in Grid View, the Histograms were present. When I clicked on the image to scroll through the filmstrip, the histogram was not present.

I'm not sure if there is any behavior difference whether I'm plugged in or not. Currently, I am running on battery. I just plugged in, shutdown LR, and restarted and now I get the histogram when scrolling through the filmstrip.

Just Shoot Me
Legend
January 9, 2019

DaBrownCO  wrote

Hi,

Currently, I am running on battery. I just plugged in, shutdown LR, and restarted and now I get the histogram when scrolling through the filmstrip.

Right when running on battery your Mac runs at a reduced speed to conserve battery life. That mean the CPU is running slower than normal and the GPU may not even be active (that is if you are even the discrete GPU in LR).

When plugged in both run at a faster speed.

Even on my desktop Windows computer that is overclocked the histogram take a second or 2 to come up when switching images.