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August 12, 2010

I can't see the Subject Distance field in the exif of raw files from both Nikon and Canon cameras. Anybody else has this problem ?

areohbee
Legend
August 12, 2010

I don't think Lightroom supports "subject distance" natively. There are other missing exif fields too that motivated me to write the ExifMeta plugin, which you can use for free if you want to.

Rob

ssprengel
Inspiring
August 13, 2010

areohbee wrote:

Thanks Beat,

Interesting that I never noticed it that I can remember, and that it slipped through a crack in 3.2RC

R

Rob ... I concur that subject distance does show up in 3.0 and not 3.2rc .... I'm on Mac so it is easy to swap back and forth from the versions for comparison ... I never recall referring to that particular data ... but do find it curious that it was available ... then not .....


In LR3.0 I had created a Print module Photo Info preset with the Subject Distance tag and the information still shows up on my prints using that preset; however, if I edit the preset in LR3.2RC, it does not show the tag, anymore, so I have to hack the text-file containing the preset to put it in if I still want it:

My LR3.0 print-info template C:\Users\Steve\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Text Templates\Everything.lrtemplate contains this notation that represents subject distance:

{

value = "com.adobe.subjectDistance",

},

Looking at the values reported for my Digital-Rebel XSi and kit lens, it is clear these values are very approximate, where during an indoor photoshoot I only have 1.45m and 3.49m reported for subject distance despite being various distances from my subjects.

I expect that after seeing all the confusion and questions about this value when shown to the user, LR3.2 hides it, and only uses it for matching lens-corrections by distance.

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

A big thank you to the developers. Personally I really appreciate the improved speed of the spot removal tool. (No more stutteriness!) Also thecorrected  Flickr publishing order is very much appreciated.

Participant
August 11, 2010

I also want to thank the developers for the release candidate --the flickr publishing is so nice and works great --the whole program works much more quickly.

areohbee
Legend
August 11, 2010

I'm now seeing 2-3 seconds delays between brush stroke and effect. Haven't seen the 6-8 seconds delays that occasionally haunted the 3.0 version, but response was sub-second when I first started using 3.2RC.

I have noticed that the first stroke tends to have the longest delay (assuming each stroke is started only after the previous stroke has finished), and it seems to be influenced by previous edit stack - e.g. it can be speeded up by making a virtual copy then resetting all adjustments.

Known Participant
August 11, 2010

So for us newbies at this, with Lightroom...since this 3.2 is a Release Candidate, do I need to download it now, or is it okay to wait until the official Release is available (whenever that will be)?  Also, do I also need to download Adobe Camera Raw 6.2 as well to go with it, or is the ACR 6.2 release solely for other products, e.g., can I download it and use it for Photoshop Elements which is currently using ACR 6.1?

Does this RC 3.2 update 3.0 or does it replace it?  Regardless, when the actual Release comes along will it update LR3.0 (assuming I don't install the 3.2 Release Candidate) or replace it.  Not being someone who is familiar with all this stuff - Release Candidates vs. Releases, etc. it is all a bit confusing at first.  When I was using Photoshop Elements I did not have to deal with this sort of stuff, you bought the new version when it came out (there were no upgrades to individual versions), or not, and stayed with the old version, for example, I have tended to buy only the even numbered versions, e.g., PSE4/6/8 and skipped the intermediate odd numbered versions 3/5/7.  LIghtroom is obviously different in this respect and I would like to understand how all this works.  Any insight that anyone would care to provide will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Regards,

WesternGuy

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

You don't need to update so you can wait if you want.  You don't need the CR plugin, that's for Photoshop.


Known Participant
August 11, 2010

Lee Jay wrote:

You don't need to update so you can wait if you want.  You don't need the CR plugin, that's for Photoshop.


Thanks Lee.  I appreciate your prompt reply, succinct and to the point.

.

WesternGuy

Inspiring
August 11, 2010

Intsalling this RC won't affect my product warranty right? I will still be able to install no

rmal updates in the future...?


Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

err.. uhm.. no, shouldn't have any effect at all.  This is just the first update of many for 3.0..

It's not quite the same as "unlocking" your iphone!

Cheers!

Inspiring
August 11, 2010

I mean like a beta software which we can't upade.

Thanks. You have answered my question, though.

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

This is a 'release candidate' so users are expected to give feedback on it? What is the official channel for doing that?

areohbee
Legend
August 11, 2010

I'm not Tom Hogarty, nor an Adobe employee, but I'm thinkin' its the same as for Lr3.0 - i.e. this forum and the feature-request/bug-report form.

I'm sure an insider will come along and confirm or deny...

Participant
August 11, 2010

I tried to publish pictures to hdd with watermark. Pictures will be published, but without watermark. Could anyone confirm this behaviour?

I'm using LR 3.2 RC (x64). In all other cases watermarkung is working fine.

KR Klaus

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

I can confirm that the display size issue is still a problem in LR3.2 RC.

I have an image with a number of tweaks and when I apply an adjustment brush stroke to it, depending on the display size the stroke will be very delayed and slow, or relatively fluid. Bringing in the bottom panel (F6) makes all the difference. This is on a 1440x900 screen and using an image in portrait orientation.

LR3.2RC now can show a considerable lag between pressing "K" and the adjustment brush being ready to appear. Is that a trade-off that has been made to make the subsequent brushing quicker or avoid the impression that the brush is ready (cursor showing) but wasn't quite?

BTW, only played perhaps a total of 15min with LR3.2 RC and have a nice message overlayed on the top of my image "An unknown error occurred"... Only went back and forth between images and made test applications with the adjustment brush.

areohbee
Legend
August 11, 2010

TK2142 wrote:

LR3.2RC now can show a considerable lag between pressing "K" and the adjustment brush being ready to appear. Is that a trade-off that has been made to make the subsequent brushing quicker or avoid the impression that the brush is ready (cursor showing) but wasn't quite?

My experience is that the brush will not appear until develop rendering / loading is complete, after which it is immediate.

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

Just installed this on Windows XP 32bit and I still have the issue where, sometimes, when zooming in to 100% the picture remains blocky.

It happens in both the develop and loupe view which I don;t understand because I thought they used different rendering engines. Or is it just the grid view that uses ACR instead of lightroom?

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

Arrrghghhh!!!!

And it sometime crashes completely when using the clone tool.

*sigh*

I thought that behaviour was a thing of the 2.x past.

I then have to restart and the folder I was in, panel states etc. are all forgotten. Can't that info be stored on disk so that when it crashes (and it will) they can be restored? Even microsoft word does that sort of thing.

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

This release includes camera support, bug fixes and new features.  Details here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-came ra-raw-6-2-available-on-adobe-labs.html

The linked page identifies only one new feature.  Are there others?

ianbutty
Known Participant
August 11, 2010

W.W. Webster wrote:

This release includes camera support, bug fixes and new features.  Details here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-came ra-raw-6-2-available-on-adobe-labs.html

The linked page identifies only one new feature.  Are there others?

The biggest one appears to have slipped under the radar.... sticky filters are back!  If you aren't familiar with them I've written a blog post about them and how to enable them in LR3.2RC:

http://bit.ly/azjaLa

Ian.

dpick2
Known Participant
August 10, 2010

Will this need to be uninstalled, or will LR3 need to be uninstalled when the non-RC version is released?  Does ACR 6.2 work with CS5?

Participating Frequently
August 11, 2010

Despite the fact that the bug list does not announce any of this, I'm very happy to report that LR3.2 RC seems to run quite a bit snappier in many ways. Local edits are still slower with an image that already had a lot of tweaks applied compared to applying them on a fresh image, but overall the performance seems to be much improved.

Its still early days and I'll have to do some real work but so far it looks very promising. Thanks for the release candidate!

The stuttery cursors of the spot removal and red-eye tool are gone as well. Nice touch. I now have an idea why it had been these two cursors that were different. They are the only ones which may need to change mode if the cursors are run over previous applications (i.e. there has to be a collision test with round shapes other than the handles). In my current testing I noticed that said cursors sometimes can become stuck completely and only move on after a slight pause. I think this is a new bug as I haven't seen it before. Hope it is not Lua garbage collecting. Moving the cursors around shouldn't really be a problem even if there are some collision tests to be performed.

A bug I reported about the spot removal tool not working well in corners also appears to have been addressed.

I've only done a very quick test so nothing is definitive but indeed looks promising.

The only issue that might have gone worse is the jerkiness of scrolling through the grid mode with the scroll bar. It wasn't great before but I now seem to experience more frequent and longer pauses in updating the grid. Please, everyone compare the (on my system jerky) way the scrollbar moves the grid to grabbing the grid with the mouse (move the cursor on a line between images and it will turn into a hand). If you move the mouse while having grabbed the grid, the updates are smooth and allow visual tracking of the images while they move. The movement with the scrollbar is so jerky that I cannot visually track the images as they pass by.

Note that scrolling with cursor keys is very fast without pauses but the movement isn't smooth (jumps with the image height) so again visual tracking is hard.

I have an idea why the scrollbar is as decoupled from the grid movement as it is, but I hope that there is room for improvement. I'd be prepared the grab the grid even though that would mean precision manoeuvres with the mouse, but unfortunately, you don't really get far with this method.

Participating Frequently
August 14, 2010

TK2142 wrote:

....

The only issue that might have gone worse is the jerkiness of scrolling through the grid mode with the scroll bar. ...

I see the same effect. The most puzzeling thing I see is this: Open picture in Library and pick 3:1 magnification. Once rendered grab the picture and drag it around. On my PC this is pretty smooth. If I do the same in the Develop module the picture jerks all over the place.

Now, I am not a Photoshop expert, I really started using this when CS4 came out and had the same jerking around problem in magnified views. Until some helpful soul pointed out to turn on OpenGL Drawing. Lightroom does not have that. The $60 million question here is: Why not?

Anybody?

BoKo

Participating Frequently
August 10, 2010

This seems to have addressed a lot of my issues thus far. I'll being putting it to the test over the next week as I attempt to make up for lost time and production. Thanks for the RC version and I'll post my findings.