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jonathan2908
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February 2, 2017
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Lightroom not aply auto sync to what is not on screen

  • February 2, 2017
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I have normaly more that 300 photos and I adjust one image and I try to apply Auto Sync to all photos, but just apply to the photos are display on screen and I have to move part by part to Sync all the photos, any fix?

Lightroom 2015.7

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duncanl46682330
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August 15, 2017

Jim - Thank you for this explanation and your logic is sound, however in practice something is going awry.

The problem occurs when I export to video without ensuring all the previews have been updated.

In this case the video produces some images which have the updates applied and some which have not, as though it is taking the information from the previews rather that the catalogue.

Exporting to PDF appear to use the logic you suggest as it produces the correct results.

A simple test to show this is:

1-In Develop, change the 1st photo to B&W

2-Select all.

3-Sync (progress bar completes)

4-Quickly jump into Slideshow (if you flick back to Library for a second you'll see some but not all photos will have started to show the change to B&W) - due to the logic you describe above

5-Export to PDF

6-Export to video (using Lightroom Templates eg widescreen or simple) - this rules out any fault with the plugin below

7-Export to video (using User Templates eg 24fps Timelapse) - 3rd party plugin

8-Flick back to Library again to see some but not all photos will have started to show the change to B&W

So at this stage, updates to the catalogue are complete but updates to previews are not.

As the catalogue has been updated the exports should produce the correct results.

Now here's where the logic falls over:

9-Check the PDF file - all slides are B&W

10-Check the LR Template video - some are B&W, the rest are still colour

11-Check the User Template video - some are B&W, the rest are still colour

This would suggest that rendering to PDF takes the source information from the catalogue, whereas rendering to video takes the source information from the previews.

So far the only way I have found to counteract this and produce the correct results is to ensure all previews have taken the update before exporting to video. As there appears to be no automatic way of doing this with and no progress indicator, it needs to be done manually by viewing each screen in Library or each section of filmstrip until all previews have been updated.

Is it possible for you to attempt the same test above?

I'd be interested to see if you get the same results.

Thanks.

Jim Wilde
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Jim WildeCommunity Expert
Community Expert
August 16, 2017

duncanl46682330  wrote

Is it possible for you to attempt the same test above?

I'd be interested to see if you get the same results.

Thanks.

Yes, ran that test (exporting video) and confirmed that only the images visible in the filmstrip had the auto-synced edits applied. It's probably the same issue that was documented here: Lightroom: Development settings aren't being applied before exporting slideshow | Photoshop Family Customer Community

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duncanl46682330
Participant
August 15, 2017

Did you get any resolution for this issue?

I have exactly the same problem ie only the photos in view on the screen whether in Library mode or filmstrip have sync'd. I have to scroll through the Library pages or filmstrip to ensure all have actually sync'd prior to exporting in Slideshow, otherwise the video has the first sync'd and rest not. Sync or Autosync I've found to be irrelevant. The issue is that the sync doesn't fully complete automatically. It, in effect, pauses and only completes when you have scrolled through all the photos.

I am on:

Lightroom version: CC 2015.12 [ 1125239 ]

License: Creative Cloud

Jim Wilde
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Jim WildeCommunity Expert
Community Expert
August 15, 2017

I think there's a misunderstanding here about how Lightroom deals with "off-screen" images when syncing changes to them. Yes, the thumbnail previews in the filmstrip and/or grid which are not yet displayed on screen are not immediately updated when the sync (or auto-sync) command is carried out, but the images ARE updated, i.e. the details of the edits to be applied are stored in the catalog. Remember that what you see in the grid and filmstrip are rendered previews created from the original files, and Lightroom works on the basis that it does not update those previews for "off-screen" images until brought into view.

What this means is that you can apply a change to a bunch of images, some of whose thumbnails are off-screen, then export all those images (without first bringing the off-screen images into view), and you'll find that the exported files will include all the edits that were applied by that sync/auto-sync operation. Subsequently bringing the off-screen originals into view will initially show the unedited version, quickly replaced by the edited version as the previews are updated.

Slideshow works a little differently in that it builds previews, and it looks like those previews are derived from the original unedited previews.....thus previewing the slideshow in LR may well show some apparently unchanged images (because new library previews haven't been created yet). However, export the slideshow, e.g. to PDF, and you should find that the exported slideshow WILL include all the edits. At least it did when I tested it. I suspect there's a bug here, if the Slideshow module runs through a "building previews" step, logically it should build those previews from the original images and thus include all the cataloged edits.

Rob_Cullen
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Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
Community Expert
February 3, 2017

I suggest you try-

In the Library Grid, select the Folder, Select all images (>300), goto Develop module, switch AutoSync 'On', then edit image in window.

I can also select one image in the Develop Filmstrip and press [CTRL+A]  to select all, and they will all Autosync.

You need all the filmstrip 'selected'.

Also Upgrade to 2015.8

Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.0, Photoshop 27.0, ACR 18.0, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0 .
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jonathan2908Author
Participant
February 4, 2017

Ok I Update to CC 2015 [1014445]

And nothing i tried both solutions, Just auto Sync photos are on the monitor view, Even if I minimize the Lightroom windows, Stop Auto Sync proccess.

JP Hess
JP Hess
Inspiring
February 4, 2017

I have not encountered the issue you are seeing. In your screen capture, it doesn't appear as if you have auto-sync enabled. You also might want to consider updating to the latest release of Lightroom. The current build number is 1099473. You can download the latest update from this website: Keeping Lightroom Up-to-Date

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