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May 6, 2017
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LR automatically creates and saves a TIFF version of image to be edited in Photoshop

  • May 6, 2017
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Hi,

I hope someone can help me to fix this annoying "feature" which started to occur on my MacBookPro Retina (Sierra) this  after the most recent update of Camera RAW, Photoshop CC and LR CC. It also seems the "Prepare the image for editing" procedure takes a very loooong time to perform - maybe because of the tiff-creation?

On my iMac still running the previous versions of the Adobe software this extra TIFF is NOT created and saved.

The preferences and settings are identical on both computers.

Anyone else?

    Correct answer Jao vdL

    Jao, I did exactly what you suggested, the TIFF gets created and saved. The "open anyway" was suggested earlier in this chain.

    Also, I have run, and rerun, uninstalled and reinstalled, restarted the computer, but all in wain.

    It seems there is no answer to my question, maybe some old "Registry entry" creates the problem.  I have had the similar problem before, at that time I could solve the problem by updating the ACR, it seemed it was not the same version in Photoshop and Lightroom, therefore the TIFF was created.  This time nothing seems to help. ACR is now same in both apps.

    So, my question was, does this happen to anyone else - or to everybody - maybe Adobe introduced some change in LR behaviour.


    Doesn't happen to me. I suggest you reset your Lightroom preferences. That often fixes issues like this.

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    Per Berntsen
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    June 16, 2020

    This has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Can a moderator please branch this to a new thread?

     

     YPapazyan

    What color space are you choosing when exporting?

    And in what application are you viewing the exported image?

    If it's an application without color management, and you are exporting in the Adobe RGB or ProPhoto color space, colors may display desaturated. Use sRGB instead.

     

     

     

    yervandp21911859
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    June 16, 2020

    Please can someone help me understand. i am not a prof. When i do some editing in Adobe Ligtroom and need more edit in photoshop i right click on a photo and choose Edit in photoshop, after editing in photoshop too i try to save or export it as a TIFF file but when it saves i look at the photo the colors are complitly how to say flat no colors it looks terable, what shoud i do i to save it as a TIFF and to have a complitly edited nice color photo???? please please please

    Jim Wilde
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    May 6, 2017

    I suspect that you might be encountering the bug that was introduced in LR CC2015.10, and which causes the "Camera Raw Mis-match" dialog to be issued when in fact no Camera Raw (ACR) mis-match occurs. Explanation:

    Assuming you are working on a raw file, when you use the "Edit in Photoshop" option the resulting action depends upon the respective versions of ACR (within LR itself, and the ACR plug-in to PS). If the version of ACR in the PS plug-in is at the same or later level than the version embedded within LR, there is no problem and LR will pass all relevant file details to PS, and PS then uses its ACR plug-in to render the raw file into temporary storage, from where you can start applying the PS edits. Only when you subsequently "Save" in PS is the TIFF/PSD written to permanent hard drive storage and added to the LR catalog.

    If, OTOH, the ACR plug-in within PS is at an earlier/lower level than LR, there is the possibility that some edit features within LR may not yet be available in the ACR plug-in, so having the ACR plug-in automatically render the raw file could result in the file having a different appearance than in LR if those features have been used in the image in LR. In this situation, i.e. there is an ACR mis-match, then the afore-mentioned dialog message would be issued, giving the user the choice of either "Render using Lightroom" or "Open Anyway". "Render using Lightroom" would normally be the correct option, as this will ensure that all edits from the LR feature set would be included in the rendered file, the only downside is that the TIFF/PSD is rendered first, and appears in LR first, before it is then opened in PS (so if you subsequently decide to abandon the PS work and close the file in PS without saving, it will still unnecessarily exist in LR). "Open Anyway" preserves the "normal" workflow, i.e. the raw file is rendered by the ACR plug-in, so will only appear back in LR should you subsequently "Save" in PS.....but this could be at the cost of missing edits that were applied to the original raw in LR but which could not be interpreted by the ACR plug-in due to it being an older version.

    So if you are running the latest 2016.10 version of LR, and the Camera Raw plugin in PS2017 is at 9.10, then there should be a seamless workflow between the two applications. Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, there is a bug in LR 2015.10 which causes the "mis-match" dialog to be issued even though no mis-match exists. In this situation the correct response should be "Open Anyway", in which case you'll only see the TIFF/PSD back in LR should you "save" in PS. If you are seeing the TIFF/PSD rendered first in LR, then this indicates that either:

    - You are selecting "Render using Lightroom", which in this instance is not necessary, or

    - You have previously encountered the mis-match dialog and clicked the "Don't show again" box whilst selecting "Render using Lightroom", i.e. that is now the default option when an ACR mis-match is detected. You can clear this by clicking on "Reset all warning dialogs" on the Lightroom Preferences>General tab, which will cause the dialog to be issued again next time you use "Edit in PS".

    Apologies for the lengthy response, but this may be helpful to others even if this isn't your situation (and if it's not, please get back to us).

    Petrus27Author
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    May 6, 2017

    Thank you Jim,

    a perfect answer. I had already performed all updates thru Creative Cloud so I could not believe the "mismatch". I reset all warning dialogs, next edit attempt resulted in the Warning dialog that you mentioned. The dialog stated I needed Camera RAW 9.1.

    However when looking at the "About Lightroom", it says that Camera RAW 9.1 is installed.

    There must be a bug somewhere?

    Jim Wilde
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    May 6, 2017

    9.1 or 9.10? 9.10 is the latest version, and as I said yes there is a bug in LR2015.10 which causes the mis-match dialog to be issued erroneously. Choose "Open Anyway" in this particular scenario only.

    Rob_Cullen
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    May 6, 2017

    What do you mean by "this extra TIFF.." ?  What is "extra"?

    Lightroom has to create some type of pixel file to open the image in Photoshop, be that TIFF, PSD, or JPG.

    And, are you sending a RAW file or a PIXEL file (TIFF, PSD, or JPG.) out to Photoshop?  There is a difference in the way Lightroom handles the transfer to Photoshop.

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.0, Photoshop 27.0, ACR 18.0, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0 .