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JimHess wrote
Here is what my Canon Pixma Pro-100 printed. This is a scan of the 4 x 6" print that I did on some Red River glossy paper.
Jim, it looks very close to the LR Soft proof using the RR UltraProGloss profile for CanPro-100. There is some contrast buildup, but that's probably due to the scanning process. So what LR settings did you use?
I really didn't change anything in the develop module. I didn't want to skew the test in any way. I just configured the print module to let Lightroom manage the color, selected the appropriate profile and set the sharpening level to high. I think the scanner probably did add some contrast, it tends to do that. But, again, I didn't want to mess with that either. So I probably didn't prove much in the long run.
Wait! I did boost saturation about 25 points. Forgot about that. Sorry.
Jim, what I meant is what Print module settings did you use. Perhaps you can provide screenshots and correlate them to the OP's print settings. We also need to confirm the exact paper type and paper profile the OP is using for soft proof review.
JimHess wrote
Wait! I did boost saturation about 25 points. Forgot about that. Sorry.
OK, so with the Saturation control at 0 the Soft Proof image should be even closer to the actual print.
Oh, I see what you mean. Are these the relevant settings? The other settings are just margins, and you probably don't need those.
I used Red River Ultra Pro Gloss paper. As per their instructions, I selected Photo Paper Plus Glossy II in the paper type in the printer driver. And I turned color management off in the printer driver.
I printed two copies, one with no added saturation and one with the 25% boost. Frankly, I can't see much difference between the two.
Looking at the DNG original file, LR screenshot, and picture of the print on my calibrated monitor it's clear the printer color management is at fault. There doesn't appear to be any significant calibration issue with your laptop's display. It is very close in both Luminance and color calibration to my display.
I remember reading somewhere (
) That the main difference between standard and high quality printing is that standard printing prints in both directions whereas high quality only prints in one direction. I have compared both, and haven't really been able to see much difference. I should have mentioned that both prints that I did were done with the setting on high. I guess I assumed too many things when I "shared" the printer settings. If there's anything else you'd like to know, please ask. I've had my printer for about three years now, so a lot of the things just seem automatic.
I am having a similar experience with my Canon Pro-10S printing from LR CC. I am using the correct paper profiles and while my 27" iMac is not calibrated I am confident that it is not far out. Most of my prints come out pretty good to excellent.
However I have one family portrait taken at sunset with lots of warm oranges and reds. On the screen I have pushed these a bit by raising the colour temp to 7500 however when I print it it comes out quite dark with very intense reds. To get a decent print I have reduced the temp to 6000 and desaturated the oranges by -6in the HSL panel.
The on screen image looks quite washed out with soft proofing turned on but there is a clue in the histogram which shows a strong shift to the right in the reds as you can see from these screen shots. The first is with soft proofing turned on after I have made the changes above. The shift is much more pronounced in the original version. The histogram is telling me what to expect and that is what I get - very saturated reds. However the screen image gives no indication at all.
I am inclined to think its a bug in the soft proofing.
Try unchecking 'Use Graphics Processor' in LR menu Edit>Preferences> Performance. Soft Proof with GPU enabled has been inaccurate on my Windows since one of the LR6 versions. I also noticed that the LR 7.4 Soft Proof screen image preview is turned off when the left-side 'Show Monitor Gamut' button is selected in the Histogram. I don't know if this was done intentionally, but it prevents determining if the onscreen preview image WITH the soft proof profile applied is out of monitor gamut.
You can check soft proof in PS, but it has the similar issues with any GPU setting other than 'Basic.'
I think I have done It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
trshaner High was ticked and went with the preferences reset, but with no success.
I then went through the print setting un-ticking and ticking again, but with the extra tick in the print preview box. When I came to print the preview showed the colour cast was still their so I cancelled the print.
Next as I changed the paper profile from Canon to fotospeed and when the profile came up 'Bingo'. No colour cast, although it was slightly out, but not with the cast. This will be due to using the soft proof for the canon paper. Which is strange as you would think Canon paper profile on a Canon printer would work in harmony JimHess.
So hopefully this is what has been driving me mad. I now need to get a different brand of paper and profile and soft proof to then and see the result.
A big thank you goes out to trshanerJimHess who, with their print test saved me going down the calibration route (this will be something I will do). Thanks also to anyone who chipped in with ideas.
I have searched Google high and low and found many different reasons for this magenta colour cast and all I would say is try everything no matter how silly. Hope fully I have found my issue and once confirmed I will let you know.
Cheers guys and gals
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