P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.

Camera Raw feedback can be found here.

Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 

Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 

We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 

Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 

Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 

• App version
• System details
• Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

Posted by:

[johnrellis]

@Soulflare007: "Can spend a bit of time selecting out of focus chain link fencing (in hopes of cleaning up the background in some zoo photos) and Generative Remove replaces it with.... more blurred chain link fencing."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[NoemiCoen]

Abbiamo bisogno che lo strumento rimozione con AI elimini quello che selezioniamo, non che lo sostuisca con facce deformate, oggetti inventati, e così via. Come è strutturato al momento purtroppo fa perdere tantissimo tempo

[johnrellis]

@NoemiCoen: "We need the AI ​​removal tool to delete what we select, not replace it with deformed faces, invented objects, and so on."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Carlie26372870bwcy]

not removing light poles in the distance keeps the lightroom in different variations. Let's do better

[johnrellis]

@Carlie26372870bwcy: "not removing light poles in the distance"

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[Wes Craft]

What's with the texture/grain mismatch in Generative Remove. In most cases the generative remove does a great job of removing the distraction however the replaced area looks like it's on textured paper surface for lack of a better word. It doesn't have that same grain/grit as the original image. See attachment.

[johnrellis]

There are a couple issues with grain and textures:

1. The replacement patch supplied by Adobe Firefly has a maximum size of 2048 x 2048 pixels. If the selected area in the photo is larger than that, then the replacement patch gets upscaled (and blurry). Your screenshot suggests that you may be replacing an area larger than 2048 x 2048.

2. Even when there's no upscaling of the replacement patch, Remove doesn't always match textures and grain very well.

For grain in particular, see this post for how to ameliorate the problem by adding the grain back:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[FrancisAlvarezPhotography]

Hi team! Whenever using LrC, after perhaps 10-15 consecutive times of using 'Generative Remove' the system stops recognizing that which I'm highlighting to remove. It's almost as if it gets 'tired' and stops recognizing the subjects, the sky, objects, etc. 

[Dennis Larson]

I'm trying to remove some stretchmarks on a persons skin.  Just a small area.  The bot thinks I'm working on nudes.  I am not.  It's just a small area of skin.  Do I need to go outside of Lightroom to fix it?

[C.Cella]

I'm trying to remove some stretchmarks on a persons skin.  Just a small area.  The bot thinks I'm working on nudes.  I am not.  It's just a small area of skin.  Do I need to go outside of Lightroom to fix it?

By @Dennis Larson

Try using Clone or Heal or even Content Aware, it could work and give good results (fingers crossed because Content Aware is very bad)

If not yes you need to use Photoshop.
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[johnrellis]

@Dennis Larson: "The bot thinks I'm working on nudes."

See here for why Remove (and other AI platforms) make so many mistakes in identifying "unsafe" content:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[Dennis Larson]

It still thinks I'm working on nudes and it won't let me remove anything related to skin.

[angel_omar_8160]

It is not working all the time, sometimes is not make anything, I do not know the reason or proble because I closed and open again.

[johnrellis]

@angel_omar_8160: "It is not working all the time, sometimes is not make anything, I do not know the reason or proble because I closed and open again."

So after closing and restarting LR, does Remove start working again?

[leonard_8252]

lightroom classic mac generative remove failed
we've encountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time.
can someone please help. I am using MacBook pro mac OS14.3 

[johnrellis]

@leonard_8252: "lightroom classic mac generative remove failed. we've encountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time."

Sometimes firewalls and anti-malware / anti-virus utilities incorrectly block some network requests from LR. Try these troubleshooting steps:

- Temporarily disable all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer. If that solves the problem, then add a specific exclusion for LR to the firewall's rules.

- Connect to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot. Sometimes the routers in these networks block LR's requests, especially in authoritarian countries like China.

- Try relaunching Finder -- start Finder, click the Finder menu, and do Quit Finder. Someone reported that this solved this problem for him. It's easy to try.

Please let us know which of these work and which don't.

[Joan5C5C]

Hello, thanks for the info you gave us. The first step of disabling the firewall worked for me, and the IA generative elimination worked perfectly. What I don't know is how to open a rule only for LR so that it works... if you could give us some indications. and activate the Firewall. For the moment I am working with the Firewall disabled. We look forward to your response, thank you.

[johnrellis]

@Joan5C5C: "What I don't know is how to open a rule only for LR so that it works..."

I'm not expert in all the various security products. If you're using Windows Defender built-in to Windows, then start here:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/risks-of-allowing-apps-through-windows-defender-firewall...

If you're using a third-party product, you'll have to contact their technical support.

[Joan5C5C]

thanks for writing. if I already had this option added because I spent all morning today trying to add and remove it 🙂 I added it again and when I activate the windows firewall and when I want to use generative elimination now it tells me that I have to check my internet connection (Check the internet connection and try again) I think I need to add something else?? at the moment I am using it with the firewall disabled.

[johnrellis]

Maybe someone else who knows more about Windows Defender can help, perhaps this person who just figured out how to stop Defender from blocking LR:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/error-con-ia-generativa/m-p/15006894#M3...

[Mike_Scott28]

Tried this out on a photo with a branch of a bush against a sky background. it did a great job identifying the object and removing it, but, what was left was a lighter color of the background so it looks like a watermark of the branch. I don't know if this helps but thought I would leave a review from my experience. 

[johnrellis]

@Mike_Scott28: "Tried this out on a photo with a branch of a bush against a sky background. it did a great job identifying the object and removing it, but, what was left was a lighter color of the background so it looks like a watermark of the branch."

Sounds like you've applied Remove on top of a Sky mask. Do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the Sky mask, and the branch ghost should go away. But if that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

[krakozavr@gmail.com]

When the remove tool is used on photos taken with high ISO, it ignores the existing noise. The resulting generation may be very good but much smoother than the surrounding area, which makes corrections prominent and visible. It would be perfect if the generative remove tool would recreate the character and intensity of the picture noise / granity.

[C.Cella]

krakozavr@gmail.com 

Since the very first days of Generative content in Phothsop user reported this problem with grain...alas a solution is not coming anytime soon.

Read my earleir comment on how to deal with this situation within LrC: https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic...

[Toastman3000]

I'd be so annoyed if they introduce paid credits, it usually takes about 6 or 7 goes before Generative Fill removes objects, not adds in weird objects