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August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participant
December 29, 2024

It would be really convenient if the remove brush tool and Generative AI brush were two seperate brushes.

Even better if they each had their own shortcut button. This would be so much better to help with a quicker workflow.

Example: Removing a simple distraction only requires the remove brush but the AI option is selected and vice versa - removing a complex distraction and Gen AI is not selected.

Hope this makes sense.

johnrellis
Legend
December 29, 2024

@Rico Myburg:   "Even better if they each had their own shortcut button."

 

These are the current shortcuts:

 

- Q opens the Remove panel, with the last-used mode (Remove, Heal, Clone) selected.

- Option Shift G toggles the setting Use Generative AI.

 

 

Participant
December 28, 2024

lWhen I used generative fill to remove a person and his shadow, there was still a faint outline on the photo so it seemed to just have lighted it up AND it added a little person.  Very weird.  

johnrellis
Legend
December 29, 2024

@MicheleDeeVee!!: "When I used generative fill to remove a person and his shadow, there was still a faint outline on the photo so it seemed to just have lighted it up AND it added a little person."

 

There could be several causes of these symptoms:

 

1. After clicking Remove, check that the Opacity slider is 100 -- LR infrequently changes it to something else.

2. If you applied Remove on top of an AI mask (e.g. Sky or Subject mask), do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask.

3. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

Participating Frequently
December 27, 2024

I can't get anything to remove.  I'm obviously doing something wrong, but nothing seems to happen regardless of what I do.  Perhaps you could make things more obvious and/or intuitive.

johnrellis
Legend
December 27, 2024

1. Uncheck Detect Objects (on by default in LR 14) -- it doesn't always work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. After clicking Remove, check that the Opacity slider is 100 -- LR infrequently changes it to something else.

3. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly every one of the several dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participating Frequently
December 27, 2024
Thank you. The opacity thing solved my issue!
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Participating Frequently
December 27, 2024

Tool overlay and icon gets on the way when visualizing the different variations of the remove tool. Needs a toggle to hide it so you can better see the final results.

C.Cella
Legend
December 27, 2024
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Tool overlay and icon gets on the way when visualizing the different variations of the remove tool. Needs a toggle to hide it so you can better see the final results.


By @juliaanastazja



It's already doable.
See screenshot



Use "H" to hide or show the overaly...same KBSC also des it for masking.

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Burnone2
Participant
December 27, 2024

Worked well removing graffiti from cliff face in landscape image.

dw24154351
Known Participant
December 25, 2024

I've attempted to use the feature to remove people from group shots where people are the primary subject.

 

The process seems to generate weird looking people. Have tried the Remove and Healing tools.

 

The process doesn't seem to prioritise substituting the selection area for a part of the background, rather it opts for adding somebody that is potentially part of the group. Definitely not my intention - I don't need to add people.

 

dw24154351
Known Participant
December 25, 2024

LRC 14.0.1 on Sonoma 14.7.1

Participant
December 23, 2024

I get a hard line around the selection I removed. It needs its own fethering to get rid of this.

johnrellis
Legend
December 23, 2024

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@John299771167m8b: "I get a hard line around the selection I removed."

 

Remove often has problems matching the tone of the replacement with the background. See my previous reply for three techniques for ameliorating the problem:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-generative-remove-feedback-lr-classic-amp-lr-eco/m-p/15055346#M391147

 

Using the second technique, raggedy boundaries for the selection, works well with your screenshot:

 

 

 

Participating Frequently
December 23, 2024
I'm trying to identify, but in some images, the generative fill keeps leaving a visible edge where it removed and object.
Its easy to fix with a healing brush on the edge but still.  
  • App version : 14.1.1
  • System details : Windows 10
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share:
johnrellis
Legend
December 23, 2024

@juliaanastazja: "the generative fill keeps leaving a visible edge where it removed and object."

 

Remove often has problems matching the tone of uniform backgrounds.  Besides using the healing brush (in shorter brush strokes), some other techniques to ameliorate this problem:

 

- Make the boundary of the selected area very raggedy with tendrils coming out of the edges. This can work well when the background isn't too uniform (as it is with your example).

 

- Select a much larger area. In your example select all of the grey background right up against the person.

tobiasschorr
Participating Frequently
December 23, 2024

It is strange - if I remove an object with AI, there still remain traces that I can not delete.

Participant
December 23, 2024

I have removed unwanted item. It is done successfuly.

Participant
December 21, 2024

Am I the only one that can no longer use any of the Remove tool? The tools wont take the things I want gone comepletely gone. You can still see what you wanted gone. Is there something that I did that made this happen, how can I fix it?

C.Cella
Legend
December 21, 2024

@Luz Photography 

Opacity is set at 54

Set it at 100


Participant
December 21, 2024

OMG I was looking for that forever and now I just found it thank you!