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August 13, 2024
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P: Generative Remove Feedback (Lr Classic & Lr Eco)

  • August 13, 2024
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Camera Raw feedback can be found here.
 
Generative Remove makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions with a simple gesture, even on complex backgrounds. For more accurate results, be sure to include the object's shadow in your selection and/or expand its size. 
 
Detect Objects uses AI to find the objects underneath a brushed area. The masked areas will now appear larger than the Early Access version of this feature. You can also circle objects for quicker selection now. 
 
We have also updated the spot selection experience to make it easier to manage variations, switch the fill type, refine the selection area, or re-generate as needed. 
 
Batch updating is also now supported for Generative Remove spots. 
 
Try out the latest updates and share your feedback with us here. Please also include the following details in your post: 
  • App version
  • System details
  • Example image(s) if you wish to share

Our team continually monitors this thread to track issues for future improvement. Thanks!
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager

 

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Participating Frequently
March 27, 2025

Gen Remove Feedback, LrC  14.2

MacBook Pro M3 Max, 64GB 1TB SSD, Sequoia 15.3.2. Experience: LrC 18 years / PS 25 years.

I'm finding all the Gen AI tools immensely frustrating in both LrC and PS. Even worse is the loss of functionality we had previosuly, so I can't even just ignore them. I rarely have issues learning new software but this has ruined my workflow and caused massive loss of productivity. The remove/clone/heal tools in LrC were never brilliant, but they did have their uses for isolated areas away from high contrast elements. Now even that basic functionality has vanished and I have to go PS for 99% of heal / remove clone actions.

 

File 1 (attached): Task: Remove door knob from foreground. Initially tried Generative Remove but it added so many other artefacts I gave up. Returned to file later to try other tools (Remove, Heal). Results:
File 2 (attached): Fill > Remove. Tried 3 x refresh, difference barely visible, so not included here.

File 3 (attached): Fill > Heal (this would have worked OK previously).

File 4: (immediately below) Refresh x 1 (Seriously? Why sample the curtain? It bears no reseenblance to either doorknob or cupboard and is nowhere near either in image).

File 5: Refresh x 2

File 6:  Refresh x 3

File 7: Fill > returned to Generative Remove. This time it worked. Wish I'd kept all the versions with artefacts it added previously, which included adding copies of the cupboard handles in background, completely new cupboard handles it made up, more versions involving the curtains and removal of white line seperating wardrobe doors.

 

It took a total of ±12-15 attempts before achieving the final result. I don't have time for this.

 

I wish Adobe had either left the whole AI thing alone or made sure it worked reliably before integrating it it into every element of the software, and left the old tools alone so users could fall back on them when the AI fails - which is provign to be most of the time so far. It works well for very specific tasks which look great when demonstrated at shows / online, but it's failed me utterly in my everyday work).

 

johnrellis
Legend
March 27, 2025

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@ZappaJul: "Remove door knob from foreground."

 

Generative Remove eliminated the doorknob from your screenshot on the first try:

 

Make sure you uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

 

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot), so we can see what might be going wrong. With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

johnrellis
Legend
March 27, 2025

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@ZappaJul: "The remove/clone/heal tools in LrC were never brilliant, but they did have their uses for isolated areas away from high contrast elements. Now even that basic functionality has vanished"

 

The previous tools, now called "modes", are still available:

 

Clone:

 

Heal:

 

Content-Aware Remove:

 

 

Participant
March 26, 2025

First of all, I can't say how amazed that I am at how well this works. I use it often and it's amazing. 

 

Two things I would like to see. 

1. A way to remove window glare and reflections while still preserving the underlying image. I sometimes shoot from aircraft in varrying different lighting conditions. Recently we flew across the rockys and I took a bunch of shots out my window. I was trying to remove the larger reflections of inside the cockpit without changing the mountains outside, but as the AI uses surrounding areas and features to generate the fill image (at least I think this is what it's doing) I lose the integrity of the original scenery. As much as I usually like the result, I prefer to maintain the original integrity of the photo because I feel that I'm creating a historical record and want it to be representative of the scene I'm seeing, instead of artificiallly generated details.

2. I'd like to see a historical save of the generations of the AI.. There are times I'm hesitant to click the Generate button after looking at the 3 selections because maybe I've gotten the best one within those three, but don't know it yet.

 

Thanks! Keep up the great work with this. 

johnrellis
Legend
March 26, 2025

@BushEhVee8er: "There are times I'm hesitant to click the Generate button after looking at the 3 selections because maybe I've gotten the best one within those three, but don't know it yet."

 

Click the + button in the Snapshots panel in the left column to create a snapshot of each promising variant. Then you can quickly review the candidates simply by hovering the mouse over each snapshot in turn.

Participant
March 26, 2025

I have been using Generative AI to remove people from nighttime and interior displays (Smithstonian Institute); however, a darkish smudge remains after the event. It works well in daylight situations, such as the Arizona desert.

johnrellis
Legend
March 26, 2025

@JohnS4557: "a darkish smudge remains"

 

Are you referring to this?

 

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo.

 

Participant
March 26, 2025
Yes, even after repeated generations of the area.
Participant
March 25, 2025

In lightroom classic, the "Create new mask" is very powerful, especially for selecting people.

If I can just remove some people or items from the mask panel, it would be amazing!

johnrellis
Legend
March 25, 2025

@Alluring_customer15D5: "If I can just remove some people or items from the mask panel, it would be amazing!"

 

Please explain in a little more detail what you want to do, especially what you mean by "from the mask panel".  

Participant
March 26, 2025

For example in my attached picture, in the mask panel, it detected 2 people, if there is an option on each person "person 1", "person 2", named maybe "remove with AI", then the people will be removed and generate AI background automatically, it will be much easier for me to use "remove panel" to select the person.

 

Participant
March 25, 2025

Boas.
A ferramenta é interessante, sem dúvida e em algumas situações chega a ser eficaz.....
Digo em algumas situações e não em todoas, porque na mioria a ferramenta não remove o objeto selecionado, mas sim o substitui por outro de identica forma e ou objeto...

johnrellis
Legend
March 25, 2025

@ricardo1972: "in most cases the tool does not remove the selected object, but rather replaces it with another of identical shape and/or object"

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
March 24, 2025

By creating a dust map (F22 of evenly lit surface out of focus), then use visualise spots, can you then generate a slection that can be saved as "Dust Map". Then instead of removing each and every spot manually, the selection can the be filled using generative AI to remove all the dust spots. From the attached image, you can see what a pain it is to remove dust spots manually.

 

Participant
March 24, 2025

Drawing straight line holding shift key does not work on first attempt.  Second attempts and afterwards does.

johnrellis
Legend
March 24, 2025

@lloydl89065811: "Drawing straight line holding shift key does not work on first attempt.  Second attempts and afterwards does."

 

In Remove and a Brush mask, you draw a horizontal or vertical line by holding Shift, holding the mouse button down, move the mouse, and release Shift and the button.

 

You can draw a straight line at any angle by clicking the mouse button, move the mouse, hold Shift, and clicking the button a second time.  Subsequent shift-clicks will draw a straight line from the previous shift-click.

 

See the attached screen recording in my Mac LR 14.2. If the exact steps above aren't working for you, please start a new thread describing the exact keystrokes and mouse movements you're making and copy/paste the output from the menu command Help > System Info.

 

 

 

Participant
March 23, 2025

LrC 14.2, Windows 11 Home

 

The Generative Remove function has suddenly stopped working correctly. I'm trying to remove a small stick from an image. I drag my selection over the stick with a small brush. I doesn't select it all, but also selects a much wider area. I try to correct it with Add and Subtract feature, but this takes many attempts. When I'm finally able to try to remove, the results are terrible. What's changed, it worked fine until the recent App update?

johnrellis
Legend
March 23, 2025

@Graham5E26: "I'm trying to remove a small stick from an image. I drag my selection over the stick with a small brush. I doesn't select it all, but also selects a much wider area."

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. If you're still having issues with the stick, see this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
March 23, 2025

Thanks a lot. The unchecking of Detect Objects worked. 

Participant
March 22, 2025

I have Topaz AI downloaded on  my MAC desktop. Itwas working fine untli it stopped.  Suggestions please.

Steve

johnrellis
Legend
March 22, 2025

@stevens33950738: "I have Topaz AI downloaded on  my Mac desktop. It was working fine until it stopped."

 

You've posted in a thread about LR's Generative Remove. I recommend you contact Topaz support for help, and if they can't solve the issue, start a new thread in this forum.

Artbild-Fotografie
Participant
March 22, 2025

Hi, the generative removal feature in Adobe Lightroom Classic 14.2 does not remove objects, but adds other versions of the object instead.

In my picture it is a trash can, which I now have to remove manually in Photoshop.

Is there perhaps third-party software that can be integrated via a plugin that can take over this function in the future?

johnrellis
Legend
March 22, 2025

@Artbild-Fotografie: "the generative removal feature in Adobe Lightroom Classic 14.2 does not remove objects, but adds other versions of the object instead."

 

1. Uncheck Detect Objects -- it doesn't work well, especially with skinny objects and along the edges of photos.

2. See this short article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo (not a screenshot). With nearly every one of the many dozen problem photos posted here, we've been able to how how to quickly remove the desired objects.