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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

Adobe Employee ,
Apr 29, 2024 Apr 29, 2024

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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
Post Camera Raw feedback here

This thread is now closed. Please update to LrC 14.x or LrD 8.x. If you wish to provide feedback, please go to the new article.



The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
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New Here ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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I just got the Lightroom Classic subscription to use the generative fill and the first photo I tried to run it on gives me the following error. Obviously, my internet is working fine. 

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LEGEND ,
May 28, 2024 May 28, 2024

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Sometimes firewalls block specific network requests from LR.  Some troubleshooting steps:

 

- Try temporarily disabling all the firewall / anti-malware on your computer.

 

- Try connecting to another network, preferably one serviced by a different ISP. E.g. a Wifi connection of a neighbor, a coffee shop, work, or your phone's hotspot.

 

Customers of my LR plugins infrequently run into such blocking, especially in countries like China where the national governments enforce more authoritarian Internet policies.

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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It worked when I turned off all firewalls but then stopped again when I turned the firewall back on again. I don't think it's safe to just keep my firewalls down all the time. Is there a way I can specifically tell windows to let LRC allow internet access? 

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LEGEND ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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@switchblade, "It worked when I turned off all firewalls but then stopped again when I turned the firewall back on again. I don't think it's safe to just keep my firewalls down all the time. Is there a way I can specifically tell windows to let LRC allow internet access?"

 

If you're using Windows Defender (and not third-party protection) see this article:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/risks-of-allowing-apps-through-windows-defender-firewall...

 

Third-party anti-malware packages typically have equivalent functionality.

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Jun 05, 2024 Jun 05, 2024

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This was really bugging me as I kept getting the "Generative Remove Failed. Please check your internet connection and try again." error on my MacBook but the PC was absolutely fine.  Internet connection was fine and both machines on the same provider.

The firewall on my MacBook was already turned off, but after turning it on and adding Lightroom Classic to allow incoming connections it then worked ok.  Please see the screen shot below to see what I did.

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LEGEND ,
Jun 05, 2024 Jun 05, 2024

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@jonunwin, thanks, that could help others. What's strange is that the Mac OS firewall is disabled by default and most people aren't experiencing that error. I tried enabling my Mac OS firewall just now and disabled all incoming connections, and Generative AI Remove continued to work normally. Clearly there's something weird going on.

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New Here ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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Has healing syncing/copy & paste been removed? I just noticed there is no option for it anymore. 

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Community Expert ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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@MattCAG 

 

It hasn't been removed it's been renamed 'Remove' to aign with the new name given to heal/clone, etc. See attached screenshot.

 

remove sync option.png

 

 

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May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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Thanks! I totally over looked that. 

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New Here ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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La suppression de personnages gênants n'a pas fonctionné chaque fois et LR a créé de nouvelles personnes en remplacement... Bizarre. Mais lorsque ça a fonctionné, c'est absolument magique !

Bravo !

 

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Engaged ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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Once again, it did not remove, it replaced. I wanted to get rid of half a flower left in the frame after I cropped. I did 3 generations and it replaced it with another flower every time. I wanted it gone and replaced with surrounding stems. I ended up going to Photoshop, using the Remove tool there which worked perfectly, and then back to Lightroom to continue.

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New Here ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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Today was my first day to try AI.  Unfortunately, it isn't trying to REMOVE the object that I want removed ( a card in a man's shirt pocket).   It is just changing the object to look different. 

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New Here ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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generative AI remove... you can replace faces....!

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Enthusiast ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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How are you handling the transfer to the highres source image if I use GenAI on a smartpreview on a mobile device?

 

  • Will LRC re-render it with the same seed in a higher resolution?
  • Do I have to manually tell it to re-render it?
  • Will a  Gen-AI fill on a Smartpreview result in a lower res fill compared to if I do it on the full file?
  • Will it cost twice when I have to re-render it for the desktop resolution?

 

To the moderators: Yes it's a repost, the frist one was moved to a general thread where it did not get answered and I don't have any intention following everything in that general thread to see if it is eventually answered. 

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Adobe Employee ,
May 30, 2024 May 30, 2024

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@Wurstkrapfen 

When using pixel-based retouching via a Smart Preview, the healed area is not recomputed upon applying those edits from the Proxy to the Original.  You would need to refresh the spots on the full-size originals manually. 

The impact on your full-res image quality is greater on larger healed areas than on smaller areas. 

 

 

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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First of all a cool function which works surprisingly good. Nevertheless I had kind of a laugh while I tried to remove a group of people in front of a mosque. I did it person by person and they all diappeared as expected except for two. I tried several times, but instead of removing them I always get new different people. I can make a choice which ones I like to have but it won't remove them a I would like to have it - for what reason so ever.

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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.... and now I can add an answer to this issue myself. after disabling Auto upright and trying again, also the two remaining people from the picture were succesfully and to my complete satisfaction removed. Great!!!

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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No me funciona la eliminación generativa con IA. Trabajo en windows 10 de 64 bits. Sale un error que dice: "El borrado generativo ha fallado...Hemos detectado un problema y no podemos completar su solicitud en este momento. Inténtelo más tarde"

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Engaged ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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How do I unfollow this discussion/conversation? I posted and now I'm getting an email for EVERY single post.

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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Hi, I am using LRC 13.3 on my desktop windows 10. However when I select an object to remove I get a messge "No objected detected". I have ticked all appropritae boxes and have tried several photos without success. My graphics card is Amd Radeo R5 435

Thank you for any advice

R

 

 

 

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LEGEND ,
May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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@William297467228arq, "Amd Radeon R5 435"

 

That's an 8-year-old graphics processor  for which AMD no longer provides updated graphics drivers. LR's AI commands are very sensitive to buggy drivers. AMD doesn't even provide downloadable drivers for the R5 435, though you can still get them for other R5 processors, though they're now all unsupported, and the last driver released in 2022, before AI apps started using GPUs in new ways (e.g. see the R5 M430 and the R5 340).

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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traditionnal correction does not work anymore ! unable to move source when a correction is made

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May 29, 2024 May 29, 2024

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It's a good start I guess, and I'm thrilled it's being integrated into LRC. But, it's so much worse than the remove tool in PS. Even removing simple objects on a simple background seems to take 4-5 attempts. I'm assuming it'll get faster as well. Great addition, but very much a "beta" version that isn't ready for prime time.

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Fantastic update.  I've had to experiment a bit, but the results have been easy and very accurate in my view.  I've never had any luck in LR Classic removing larger objects in complicated settings before and had given up but am extremely pleased with the results of the new AI-powered Generative Remove tool.  See attached photos. DSC05303.jpgDSC05303-2.jpg

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