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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

解決に役立った回答 daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

返信数 894

Participant
July 9, 2024

Tried to remove a building and got a building shaped white spot.  followed your advice about order of procedures.

 

 

johnrellis
Legend
July 10, 2024

@defaultmhofob4q9t16: "Tried to remove a building and got a building shaped white spot."

 

Did you apply Remove on top of an AI mask, e.g. a Sky mask?  If so, do Settings > Update AI Settings or apply Remove first and then the mask.

 

If that doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail.

Known Participant
July 9, 2024

It works great or much better in a high-definition RAW file, even when converted to .jpg than in a lower-resolution .jpg file. More information available for it I'm guessing? It is a work in progress, so I hope for much-improved results soon.

Participant
July 9, 2024

Much easier than opening up photoshop to remove unwanted objects

All Is Light
Participant
July 9, 2024

So far I'm loving this feature guys.  Mostly it works amazingly, way better than I could do in photoshop. A couple of things for feedback

  • when removign something from a block colour like a wall or sky, it needs a feather added. Sometimes I can see the delineated area that was removed. It often needs to blend better.
  • like others have said, I often just want something removed and blended with the background, rather that add some object

Keep up the great work

johnrellis
Legend
July 9, 2024

@All Is Light: "I often just want something removed and blended with the background, rather that add some object"

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

Participating Frequently
July 8, 2024

Hi - late to this forum and this might have been covered. Bit surprised at this result but might be outside the scope of the functionality. Attempted to remove power pole.

johnrellis
Legend
July 9, 2024

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@defaultoqq64s6tqtvx, that ghost image is caused by applying Remove (any mode of Remove) on top of an existing mask. Do Settings > Update AI Settings, or apply Remove first and then apply the mask. 

 

This is as-designed by Adobe, though it confuses many people and doesn't fit their natural workflows.

 

 

Participating Frequently
July 9, 2024

Ah - yes, makes sense now. Thank you!!!!!

Participant
July 8, 2024

funziona.  Quasi impressionante.

Participant
July 8, 2024

If you use the AI removal tool of LR on an object in front of a flat, less structured background such as a beach or a house wall, you will get artifacts with brighter areas that roughly correspond to the previous outlines. This does not occur with PS.

johnrellis
Legend
July 9, 2024

@Tobias38488938y8jo, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the original, unmodified photo and call out which objects you're removing. 

Participant
July 8, 2024

Fréquemment, la suppression générative de Lightroom remplace l'objet que je veux supprimer par un objet différent mais semblable, au lieu de le supprimer. Par exemple cela remplace une automobile par une autre automobile.

Ce n'est pas ce que j'en attends.  Qu'une "IA" invente un sujet, un objet ou que sais-je ne m'intéresse pas.  Par contre, qu'elle soit capable de reconstituer l'arrière plan qui se trouve derrière l'objet que je veux supprimer, ça, c'est véritablement intelligent., et cela m'aiderait beaucoup.

johnrellis
Legend
July 9, 2024

@defaultoqq64s6tqtvx: "Often, Lightroom's generative deletion  replaces the object I want to delete with a different but similar object"

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

Participant
July 8, 2024

I used to have a "photoshop work" that I would outsource - that is no longer necessary!  Amazing! 

Participant
July 8, 2024

I'm trying to use this tool to remove electrical poles with a cloudy backdrop, and I find that the filled area is consistently slightly off in terms of color/tone as compared to the background. This is true across all the variations. (I used the standard content removal tool for the power lines connecting to the pole, and it worked just fine.)

 

johnrellis
Legend
July 8, 2024

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@Ben38474280lm19: "remove electrical poles with a cloudy backdrop, and I find that the filled area is consistently slightly off in terms of color/tone as compared to the background."

 

I encountered similar suboptimal results a while ago, and I ended up not using Object Aware selection, but instead making a raggedy selection significantly wider than the poles: