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Gray Drake
Gray Drake
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September 5, 2017
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Removing a image from a collection folder, but not from the hard drive

  • September 5, 2017
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My process for years and several thousand images has been to load them into an "edit file" out of the camera.  I edit and delete in this fiile, then tag the remaining images for placement of the edited version(s) in their permanent folder.

Recently the images in my "edit folder" do not move and remain in the edit folder - so both the permanent folder and my edit folder show the same image.

I was told by a local software store that clicking on remove and then remove again (avoiding remove from disk) would resolve the issue.  This did resolve the issue for several months.

Today, however, when I clicked remove and remove again, the images were removed from my permanent folder on the hard drive.

Recommendations on recovering a dozen valuable images and a process for removing images from my edit folder only.

Gray Drake

[Moved to Lightroom based on previous messages... Mod]

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    Rob_Cullen
    Community Expert
    Rob_CullenCommunity Expert
    Community Expert
    September 6, 2017

    The title of your post gives me cause to wonder-

    "...from a collection folder..."

    Do you understand that Collections are not folders.  (And folders are not collections)

    You can delete photos from collections and they are not removed from Lightroom, or their storage folders.

    Placing a photo in a collection also does not move it (or copy it) in any way.

    Can you explain in more detail your reference to " a collection folder"..?

    Regards. My System: Windows-11, Lightroom-Classic 15.0, Photoshop 27.0, ACR 18.0, Lightroom 9.0, Lr-iOS 10.4.0, Bridge 16.0 .
    JP Hess
    JP Hess
    Inspiring
    September 5, 2017

    There really isn't any need to move the image around because that image isn't modified by Lightroom. All of the adjustments that you make are simply stored in the catalog. The image is always left in its pristine state as it was downloaded from the camera. So it's best to just download it and place it in its intended folder and leave it there.

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      dj_paige
      Legend
      September 5, 2017

      Recently the images in my "edit folder" do not move and remain in the edit folder - so both the permanent folder and my edit folder show the same image.

      Please describe, step-by-step, how you move these images from one folder to another. Leave nothing out. Also describe what happens, and if there is an error message, please quote the exact word-for-word error message.

      it would also help if you stated the version number of your Lightroom, and the version number of your operating system. I want the version NUMBER and not words like "up-to-date".

      If I could suggest a simpler workflow that might avoid these problems, just put the photos in their permanent folder straight out of the camera, and then most of these problems would go away.

      Gray Drake
      Gray DrakeAuthor
      Known Participant
      September 6, 2017

      Thank you for your response.

      My LR version is “Lightroom version: 6.0 ”

      I have had some suggestions to change my work flow, but I have been using this workflow in lightroom back to 3, have over 30,000 edited images saved and have always used the same workflow. Could change, but my habits are ingrained over all these years, so I strongly prefer not to change, since his has not been a problem in some 30,000 image moves. I have never lost images until this week and this has occurred in a couple of experiments, so I am sure the process shown below is being used. Also, I can not put the images into a permanent folder immediately, because the folder is only determined after the editing is completed and the quality’personality of the image is determined.

      My workflow:

      a.. Transfer from camera all images into a folder titled “2017 Images for Editing” using Lightroom, a folder that was created in Lightroom.

      b.. I delete 80 to 90%,

      c.. I transfer or move, the others to any one of 50 folders that are existing, for example “2017 Moods of Lake Michigan”. These permanent folders only get images I intend to save and ones that have been edited.

      d.. From either the Loupe or Grid view I simply drag the image from the Edit folder into the Permanent folder.

      e.. The image leaves the Edit folder and is relocated to the Permanent folder. After my final editing session the Edit folder is empty.

      f.. Remember I have done this thousands of times without an issue.

      New intermittent Ppoblem

      a.. When dragging the image to the Permanent folder – it arrives in the Permanent folder, but also remains in the Edit Folder. This does not happen every time, but began happening intermittently a couple of months ago.

      b.. Now my Edit folder is filled with images that are already processed, and to work around this I Remove them. Right Clicking on an edited image in the Edit folder, I then right click on Remove (removes the image from the Edit location, but not from any other locations). I must not click on Remove from Disk, because the deletes the image from both LR and the Hard Drive.

      c.. The Remove Process worked successfully for a few weeks. This week however the Remove action is deleting my image from the Hard Drive as well as from LR.

      Hope this helps --- I really need some help, I have deleted quite a number of valuable images this week.

      Jerry

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      dj_paige
      Legend
      September 6, 2017

      First, update to Lightroom 6.12, there is a bug fix regarding the moving of photos from folder to folder that is related (but perhaps not exactly the same).

      If that doesn't solve the problem, then again I would recommend using a workflow that does not allow this problem to happen, as I explained earlier.

      Nancy OShea
      Community Expert
      Nancy OSheaCommunity Expert
      Community Expert
      September 5, 2017

      The Lounge is not a technical forum.  Your question sounds product related to Photoshop Lightroom, Camera Raw, etc...,  Is that correct?

      Nancy

      Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
      Gray Drake
      Gray DrakeAuthor
      Known Participant
      September 6, 2017

      Yes this is a LR issue and I have had some responses, but no answers. Thank you for your response. If the responses go no where, I will move to another site.

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