P: Assign People tags to pictures that were missed

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Once the indexing has been completed and Lightroom CC has found all the potential faces, it would be nice to have the ability to add People Tags to pictures that were "missed" where no faces were recognized.  The idea of People Tags is to be able to search for people and generate all potential results.  Right now it's messy because you have to resort to keyword tags to identify people that were missed with facial recognition and makes searching and cataloging a tedious task.

[mr_photo_guy]

I upvoted this one so hard I about punched a hole through my computer.

[Timothy.Spear]

This now has 157 up votes. Based on a sorted list of ideas; there is only one idea which ahead of this request which has not been released. And it is marked planned (custom ratios).

Adobe, if you want beta testers, let me know!

Tim

[mr_photo_guy]

Another update with new masking features, which I really don't care about, and nothing on adding faces. Who cares about this masking stuff? Adobe, you are missing adding in basic functionality that should have always been there.

[schachtb]

Another 6 months since my last post - same issue. Does anyone have a suggestion for how to get Adobe to comment or respond?

[daveh44701976]

The idea of being able to see an image of a person, select it, and then see all of the photos that the person is in, makes sense.  But it doesn't work that way.   It only shows photos that either identified the person automatically or identified an unknown face where you've manually specified the person.   

BUT, I have 38000 images.   Easily, 25% of them have NO face detected or only some faces are.   All kinds of scenarios.  Far shots, person turned, whatever.  

So if I can't use the Person view to reliably see all the photos for any particular person, why would I use it at all?  I mean I don't want to look at SOME photos of a person.  I find it perplexing that someone didn't ask the question.  It leaves me with using tags as the only way.  

The problem there is, the search for Tags is also incredibly incomplete.  I mean you can't even do a boolean search with Keywords.  I'm looking for Tag X and Y.   But, instead, it jus does Tag X or Y.

And then, if you wanted to traverse from iPhone, to Web, to Desktop, forget it.   Whatever capability isn't lacking on Desktop, it is missing on one or the other (or vice versa).

This is just a hack of a product.  The price without 2TB isn't worth it, but add that, it's insane to expect that kind of cost when capabilities anyone with a brain would say it's kinda needed, are just missing.

Spent quite a bit of time tagging, but honestly about ready to find something else.  It's one thing functionality is missing, but an entirely separate one to feel that NO development is being done at all, at least that I can see.

[Timothy.Spear]

I give Adobe a fair amount of grief. However, to say that nothing is being developed is not at all accurate. The release notes are public, and posted on here.

You might disagree on the priority placed on specific things (I know I do, I would rather fix facial tagging issues then a new mask feature, and I do NOT care if LrX then cannot correctly render some images sent from Classic). 

Tim

[daveh44701976]

@Timothy.SpearFair enough, I agree that was an exaggeration.  But, I would suggest the capability I'm talking about never should have been included as-is.  To me, that's an indication that the product team either doesnt' understand how users use the product...or just wanted to deliver a feature knowing it is not very useable.

[Timothy.Spear]

On this aspect I waffle. When you consider that a significant aspect of the target market is more likely my kids who are phone/tablet focused; the way the People feature works does make sense. Again, I do not agree with the selected features, and I think it is kinda weak even in the implementation, but I do believe I follow the likely use case Adobe was considering.

Tim

[mr_photo_guy]

If that really is Adobe's target audience I think it's not exactly the audience they got. Why use Lightroom for photos you take with an iPhone? Apple Photos already integrates perfectly for pictures taken on iPhone and can do 99% of what most people want to do. You use lightroom if you have a DSLR/Mirrorless full body camera. Usually the workflow is to take the memory card and upload photos on the computer. The mobile feature is nice to have to make edits on photos you've pulled off or refer back to your library. But to keep the library organized you absolutely need people tagging capabilities.

[frydespresso]

Has there been any updates in manual people selection? In photos where no face was recognized, clicking on the Keyword icon at the lower right corner only reveals the "Keywords" panel. This happens even in some photos were multiple people are clearly visible. Lightroom is amazing at detecting incredibly small, blurry and even obscurred faces in most cases. In other photos, it is unable to recognize a face looking right at the camera without obstruction, and with considerable detail.

[Memphisto]

+1 i am also still waiting for this feature...
I really hope this will come back some day.

Or at least a feature to tag a person that is in a picture.. even without a face recognition...
I just want to be able to search for pictures by name and see the pictures under the "Person" tab...

You can add keywords to pictures BUT that doesnt link the person to the picture.

Just let me link the person... no need to see their face...

Thanks!

[mr_photo_guy]

Been waiting for this feature forever. Maybe one day my kids will see it. I don't think I'll see it in my lifetime because Adobe seems obsessed with its masking features which I almost never use. At this point I have so many missing Person tags in my photos I don't know that that metadata even matters anymore, it's so unreliable. Come on Adobe listen to your userbase.

[belldesigned]

Hello @peter-b I would also love the feature to manually add faces where Lightroom (not classic) misses them. I love the face recognition feature and use it every day. Please keep working on this! Keep up the good work!

[Wurstkrapfen]

I find that masking stuff really useful.

What's not so useful is the whole face thing. Because:

- there was a bug where tagged people would get untagged (lot's of work I put in undone)

- no way to permanently tell LR "that bush is not a face" few hours later it's back as a face

- no way to jump to an album, I can search people but can't switch to the album that photo is in to check out other photos of this album (maybe even untagged ones)

[mathieud65778067]

How can you add someone’s face in a picture, who was not recognised ? Assign People tags to pictures that were missed by the algorithm is essential: Once the indexing has been completed and Lightroom CC has found all the potential faces, it is critical to have the ability to add People Tags to pictures that were "missed" where no faces were recognised. The algorithm will never be able to recognise 100% of appearances for one person. There will always be many cases for someone even in the middle of a sharp picture, which the algorithm cannot recognise: because it's a child with a tiger face mask, because the person is turning his back on the picture (and you still want to keep that picture), because he's swimming and covered with water - because he's too far (and small), and so on.... It is absolutely critical to: (i) be able to manually add one person / face to a photo, (currently, you can add a tag with a name but not a person, then you have 2 tags in LR for that person: 1 keyword + 1 person's tag. This is really suboptimal for searches). (ii) also, currently on the PC, LR shows you the people already recognised on the picture. So you know if someone is missing or not. However on the ipad, this is crucially missing.

@Adobe Lightroom team when can we expect this feature, pls ?

[saar32198266p15i]

I am adding my vote on proritizing manual face tagging to Lightroom (not CC and not Classic)
the software missed a ton of faces in my pictures and I can not group them with the others, nor use them for compering facial recognition to other pics.
please add that feature.

[mathieud65778067]

agree with @saar32198266p15i 

This is urgent now

[mscdex001]

I too would like this feature added. I find Lightroom missing a lot of faces that are clear and easy to identifiy. It would be interesting to see what things make indexing look at a face and think...this is not a face... but the soccer ball at the bottom of the screen must be aunt Trina. 

[mathieud65778067]

I have many pictures for which i honestly do not see how the best AI on earth could ever identify the person.

Some examples include: the person is below or covered with water, the person's face is too much turning away or has a low hat (or hood, or helmet), the person is small & far in the picture, the person is simply turning his back on the picture (but you still want it tagged), the person has some objects partially in front of his face....

and in addition you have all the pictures where the person's face is upside down, for which i can hope that one day AI will recognise these correctly, but we're not there yet.

[ianhgsy]

I have migrated from LR Classic to LR CC and am, in general, pleased I made the move.

BUT, in LR Classic, I had the abilty to draw a box around a 'face' and tag it as a person.  Why cannot LR CC have the same feature?  It picks out faces with a reasonable degree of accuracy but badly lit or faces at an angle it misses and I need to have them tagged.

Will this be introduced any time soon?

[daveh44701976]

Laughed seeing this, because this thread is almost 5 years old.  If they aren't adding the capability in that amount of time it is never going to be added.  

I just stopped using it all together.

[ianhgsy]

I am beginning to agree with you.  It would be nice if Adobe could make some comment, even if it is obly "we are not going to bother with manual tagging".

We all pay a fair amount for the various apps and it would be nice if we were recognised.

[ianm58137015]

I have just imported a PSE catalog, via a LR Classic mergeof 90000 photos into LR Desktop. 

These include several hundred pics from athletics, cycling and motor racing events with large crowds in the background. While LR Desktop is very good a recognising faces, including artworks and statues, it also wants me to identify names of individuals in crowds, which I neither want or am able to do. 

Is there any way to remove single or groups of photos from the people/face analysis?

[glyde007]

I have the same issue, would love to tag the faces but does not seem possible

[David366000389k5e]

When people's faces are missing, it does not auto-detect that there are people.  Online tutorials show me that I should just click on the Add People button and highlight the person.  However, I cannot find the Add People button anywhere.  Any suggestions?  Thanks for your help!