P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[sebastianr15198647]

I think the criteria must be that the responsibility for the result image is the user, as the copyright is . So Adobe can keep improving without being judged.

[frequentlyrandom]

I think Adobe needs to get out of the content moderation process entirely, what we use the AI for is really none of their consern, they can't be held liable, and it ruins the experence. I've ran into dozens of issues with violating the guidlines just having the AI try and remove objects or generative fill, if the results were not something I wanted I wouldn't use them but censoring them before I get a chane to will just drive people to other tools that know their role in the community.

[Graham24508943nobd]

THAT's exactly the point I made more or less at the start of the testing ? 

[daniellei4510]

Given the fact that the Adobe team has requested to see example images
wherein the problem occurs, I get the impression they are not experiencing
the issue to the extent that we are, if at all. Despite what the message
says, I believe other issues are involved well beyond assumed censorship.

[Bob5E9A]

I watched a finance reporter (Cramer) rave about PS AI. He said that the PS CEO said they got 80 times the submissions they thought they would get.  They should not take credit for failed attempts. 

[liliwashere]

I'm trying to generate an image of a drag queen, but when I type "drag" or "drag queen" I get a message that they violate user guidelines. Can someone explain why and how? Is there a way to request those words to be excluded from the list of prohibited keywords?

[gina238]

Send me an email to send the psd file. Don't feel comfortable uploading my high res photo here.  

[jane-e]

@gina238 wrote:

Send me an email to send the psd file. Don't feel comfortable uploading my high res photo here.

Gina, see the pinned reply at the top of each page where Pete Green shared his adobe email address. Send it there.

Jane

[MontyWales]

Works fine with most of my MJ images 

[Juan30579139g20f]

At this point I'm giving up on edititing anything woman related in PS whatsoever. I don't know what were they thinking with this hyper draconian and irrational censoring of a tool made for professional adults.

[rb16826567]

same here. 

it worked initially but i am getting this error on any image i'm trying to edit this weekend. like taking out a guy far in the background that's already dark and blurry 😞 

[MultiMediaArtistPortland]

Adobe Photoshop Beta 24.7

Hello World,

This evening 6/18/2023 I updated the Adobe Photoshop Beta to V. 24.7. In the image below I was trying to remove the chain as shown in the image below using Generative Fill with no prompt / input and I recieved the shown Community guidelines violation alert. I repeated the same step and received the same results. On the third step I removed the trace and circled the chain again it worked fine. I'm not sure what triggered the Community guidelines violation but though you should know that it seems real finiky. 

[D Fosse]

This is trivial to remove with traditional methods. I don't know why you would use generative fill here.

[pocketd]

I think the guidelines are way too strict. I absolutely hate that the tech overlords want to censor and babysit their users. I have a client who is an avid hunter and of course, the word gun is banned. More arbitrary rules that ultimately won't stop people from doing what they want. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Hi @rb16826567 did you enter any prompts when trying to remove?

[gina238]

Sorry I intended to upload the psd file with saved selection. Since I made 6 different selections I honestly cant remember  which selection I  had the issue with now. I used healing brush to fix it. However I will upload a photo with circles around the areas that was an issue. One of the circles didnt work but the others did. There were people leaning over the edges and removed them all. The other five areas worked perfectly. 

[Owerwild]

Yes, this is very frustrating. During a photoshoot, the model was still feeling uneasy, despite producing stunning poses. It was evident on their face that they were nervous.

On some of the photos, Photoshop Beta's generative fill gave them a beautiful smile, but on the rest, it displayed a message stating that it violated guidelines. After that, I tried using the neural filter, only to receive a response that it was currently not operational. I expected more from a market-leading company that develops professional standards.

[gina238]

Just to be clear when I started this feed I saw a glitch in the generated fill tool. I am not against restrictions.  AI needs restrictions. Adobe has every right to decide to restrict copyright issues and offensive AI.  I just want to help it work better.  That's me. So save your time and don't send me petitions. 

[Bob5E9A]

If gen fil can not generate a decent fill you get this notice.

[Fine Art P]

So Adobe is now policing what we can generate with software we've purchased? As a photographer working with the nude figure, I would need to switch to another provider. What is the context of this censorship? I can see censoring images uploaded to Adobe's site for public view, but thell me Adobe isn't planning to monitor and make moral jugements about what we make on our own machines? 

[Graham24508943nobd]

Daft thing is, if you type in posing, posed, poser, or pose in the prompt box, 90 % of the images are featuring scantily clad ladies, which adds to the irony of it

[williamh53049808]

I agree, I am running Stable Diffusion locally. Yeah it is not nearly as fast, but at least its local. What I am wondering is where can I read the guidelines? I don't remember seeing any. I just loaded it up for the first time today, and tried extending an anime picture, obviously sexual but not nude (i was just trying it out to test the feature out), it extended it no issues and I got no warnings (no text prompts were used). From the sound of it, i should have. So it sounds as if the warning system is not consistant. 

[Graham24508943nobd]

Havn't seen the guidelines either

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@williamh53049808 its a beta. Most users are getting warnings by not adding a prompt and leaving the field blank.

[ArtrBok]

I experienced the same issue on several pictures of antique pens. Adding a prompt solved the issue. I've been trying to upload an image to the dropbox folder but it always stalls at 10% uploaded. It's a picture of an antique pen on parchment. I think it mistook it for something else. I added the prompt "fill in the style of the image" (probably more than I needed). All good. Thanks for the solution.

And - I agree with generating locally. I'm traveling and have been in an area where wifi and cell coverage are minimal and intermittent. I spent a lot of time this morning trying get get a couple of very simple fills done. Not critical work, but telling if you're in poorly connected area. I have SD/Automatic1111 running and it clicks along nicely. But, this photoshop featur is awesome! It's right where I need it to be - in the workflow.

Cheers,