P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[andreac15633510]

I HAVE GOTTEN THIS PROBLEM TOO, I CANNOT USE GENERATIVE EXPAND IN ANY PHOTO, EVEN IN THE MOST SIMPLE PHOTOS. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@andreac15633510 read above for one of the numerous posts stating that entering a period (.) or full-stop will avoid violations. No need to shout.

[CSI Productions]

Just my opinion but I doubt he intended to shout. More likely his caps lock was on and he didn't feel like retyping his comment. I've done this myself. If text editors had the ability (with the click of a button) to swap all caps to lower case I would have used it in these instances. Maybe I'm wrong, just a thought.

[jessica_gemmell]

Hi,

I was expanding a picture I created and with generative fill and recieved an error similar to these folks.

Can you help? I tried several times without a prompt.

[daniellei4510]

Did you try enter a period (.) as a prompt? That fixes the issue more often than not.

[Jennifer30701028p3ce]

the censorship is ridiculous. at least let us opt in/verify for pg-13/R content. adults shouldnt be policed for legal artwork in an app that we bought, we own, and is on our local machine (not even being shared publicly like midjourney and the like). imagine if they policed the clone stamp or curves tools, this is the same exact thing.

[rayek.elfin]

@Jennifer30701028p3ce

Playing the devil's advocate here. 😉

You do not own Photoshop nor have you bought a license. Adobe's software on your machine is rented to you (or in other words you "subscribe" to a service.).

SAAS is the keyword here: Software As A Service.

As a user we have absolutely no say in what Adobe will or will not allow you to create with Photoshop.

Adobe's software is used all over the world. Nudity in imagery is outlawed in quite a few countries. Put yourself in Adobe's shoes: how will you manage all the exceptions and varying legal requirements world-wide?

The simple answer: you avoid legal issues altogether by allowing only the lowest common denominator: PG-13 imagery and no nudity or other potentially offensive imagery.

And if someone here needs PG-13+ GENAI imagery in their work: open source and free options exist. Freedom in software is only possible through community driven open source software.

Not saying I agree with Adobe's moral policing. But I do understand their position. And as a global company they are not a democracy and bound to vastly different laws and legal jurisdictions.

[Patricklee33261594trwh]

it violates nothing. And I,  like many other artists am facing the same said annoying warnings. it's ridiculous. it's like, how can the worlds leading creative tool designers block artists from being creative and what they do? I mean, why introduce This in the first place?

[CShubert]

@Patricklee33261594trwh curious if you see the same issue with the full Ps release version?

Adobe has limited access to the generative fill and generative expand features to customers with a valid subscription to a plan that includes Photoshop ( Creative Cloud, Single app or Photography plan).

Potential customers can try Photoshop and the generative features by signing up for a 7 day trial here - https://www.adobe.com/downloads.html 

If you believe that you have are incorrectly receiving the above error and qualify to use the generative features, please contact technical support.

[Patricklee33261594trwh]

my friend, are you playing devils advocate or are you the devil himself? Come on, this is a community of artists, and we are all aware of this. There is no room for playing devils advocate, unless again, you are the devil himself. I mean, it's like, don't give me a paintbrush, canvas and paint then tell me that I can't use the entire canvas, but are only restricted to one corner. because that's lunacy. Rented or owned.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Patricklee33261594trwh See #2 in this document:

https://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms/adobe-gen-ai-user-guidelines.html

If you feel you need to create something that is restricted based on these terms:

• Pornographic material or explicit nudity
• Hateful or highly offensive content that attacks or dehumanizes a group based on race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, serious disease or disability, gender, age, or sexual orientation
• Graphic violence or gore
• The promotion, glorification, or threats of violence
• Illegal activities or goods
• Self-harm or the promotion of self-harm
• Depictions of nude minors or minors in a sexual manner
• Promotion of terrorism or violent extremism
• Dissemination of misleading, fraudulent, or deceptive content that could lead to real-world harm
• Personal or private information of others in violation of their privacy or data protection rights

Then perhaps you need to look elsewhere to generate these kinds of images.

If you are not generating this and are getting the error, read through this thread to see potential work-arounds/solutions or report the violation error using the pop up link.

[kawaki]

This is your sanctimonious answer.  I don't think anyone here wants to cross the line of your good taste but rather want and need artistic freedom.  Yes there are other programs to use that are far more AI advanced than Adobe and will be used.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@kawaki There is nothing sanctimonious about this and thats my point - Adobe isn't restricting beyond this list and it's based on prompts.

The AI is not giving a violation because of YOUR content.

It's based on prompts that violate this list. If you get an error and have not asked for anything remotely close to this, then report it for review and try again. As users have shown time and time again on this thread, it is possible to work with nudity, etc. and use Generative Fill - if you write effective prompts.

It's called Machine "Learning" - the AI is improving with each reported error and will continue to improve with participation.

[kawaki]

Well you enjoy your prompts and fun.  As I said, there are many AI programs that are far more advanced than this attempt and I'm using those to further my creativity.  Thanks for your input, there is no further need for discussion

[3Hounds]

Please don't slam the door on your way out...

[Graham24508943nobd]

ROFL

[kawaki]

[Personal attack/Bullying removed by moderator]

[CShubert]

This thread is starting to go off topic, please review:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community-discussions/adobe-support-community-guidelines/td...

[MeredithStotzner]

Dear Community,

On November 7th, 2023, the Firefly for Photoshop service was updated and improved for this issue. You should encounter fewer guideline errors when working on or near skin-tone areas that do not violate the community guidelines.

While the improvement is a big step in the right direction, we are continuing to explore new ways to minimize false-positives. Please continue to give us feedback on this new forum thread and also report false violation errors in the application.
Thank you for your patience with the overly-aggressive image violation errors. We recognized there was a bug where images that did not violate our community guidelines were being falsely flagged as such and have been working on this resolution.

Again - thank you.

[cthomasv]

That does not work either.

[jay.sims]

To the best of my knowledge, Generative Fill isn't suitable for images that feature any form of nudity. This has been my experience while handling fine art images from a figure study. Despite the images neither being graphic nor provocative, I was unable to utilize Generative Fill to expand the background, with alerts about violation of community guidelines.

I also encountered similar issues while attempting to edit a photo from a jewelry photoshoot. This image, which appears in jewelry and department stores and depicts a model in a strapless dress reclining on a balcony in a captivating manner, was also flagged for violating community rules. The image was meant to be used for a trunk show ad, and possesses no inappropriate content.

Most recently, I was trying to restore a vintage photo of my grandparents. A section of the photo was missing due to damage. I was wanting to use Generative Fill as a short cut so that I did not have to recreate the missing element manually.   However, once again, I was unsuccessful due to an alleged violation of community guidelines. It's baffling to me as to how a 1940s photograph of my grandparents could infringe these rules.

[gascolator]

I wanted to put a car I photograph onto the background of a drag strip.
So I entered "drag strip" for the prompt. 
I got the indication that there was a problem with the prompt and was re-directed to the "Guidelines." 
It would appear that Adobe's AI has some sort of dirty mind. 
A "drag strip" is not something filthy. It is a place where cars go to race. 
Reported this bug, and Adobe just closed out the report. 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@gascolator totally agree - it might be flagging "Strip" - report it via the violation pop up to help - that is the proper place to note issues with false flags.

In the meantime, get creative like "straight race track" or something else.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Also I dont see a bug filed under your account - did you post it on the bug forum here or ?

[gascolator]

Neither "drag" nor "strip" seem to be allowed. I tried them individually. 

Not sure the "I" in "AI" actually stands for "Intelligence."