P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[Alan27596961g40h]

Through a number of experimentations, I think I have a grip on how these restrictions are being assessed. In one example, I had a photo of a woman wearing a tight yoga outfit where the top of her head was cropped. So I tried using generative fill to build the top of the head. I kept getting the policy restriction errors. So I started experimenting by cropping parts of the image. First I cropped the lower part of the body. Still getting errors. Cropped to the neck. Still getting errors. I even went as far as cropping so only her face from the nose up was left. Still getting errors. I quit and re-ran the beta version every time in case Adobe remembered the original image before the cropping.

I think how Adobe AI works is that it surfs the Internet for billions of images and saves them in a database somewhere. Google does this, as well as many other search engines. Then the images are processed using algorithms and are then categorized accordingly. I'm pretty sure these categories include the "naughty" category. So when generative fill starts to process your request, it builds the imagery on the server end. If the produced images include parts previously assessed as dangerous, then the errors will keep popping up as long as you use that same image. The results generated by AI have to be 100 percent clean of violations. So in my unfortunate situation, any images found on the Internet that somehow resembles the photo I have that have been tagged as pornography or the like will trigger the violations.

In conclusion, there's nothing wrong with my photo. Adobe's image scanning technology scanned in too many pornography images. What Adobe should do then is flush out the bad imagery from its database. So this way I won't get these violation errors. I'd rather get a lousy result or no result at all than flash a violation error as if I'm some pervert trying to produce something bad.

[Edu Couchez]

So... with this violation of “guidelines”, sure we hadn't had any of the beautiful Monty Python's movies. Really... these days, playing with your AI, I've felt how the old eastern communist block faced the strong soviet's censorship. I know you have to create a safe environment for the human being, but at cost of the creativity? You're developing a creative tool, not a dogmatic ideologic 1984-esque censorship paradigm. At the end, we're sharping our minds to fool the inner AI censorship to get what we want, as it happens in totalitarian societies. Today for example… hours to generate a decent Prussian-war outfit for a steampunk friend’s picture. Needed lies and tricks to convince AI I didn’t want to harm anyone.

So, Adobe users think we are mature enough to face our own responsibilities. If I can google the most recent Ukraine news and videos, why can I create a Prussian cavalry costume over somebody, because I wanted to add a sword in his hand?

And please, don’t take that as a “heater” proclaim… only as a personal philosophic though in loud voice.

[Stapfoto]

Maybe seen as niple? Refused to fill over and over again.
Also filling the space between cabinet doors is refused because "against the rules". Gereative fill doesn't work with most of the pictures I shoot in an office because of this reason. 

[Karim98A7]

For some reason this feels like an AI-generated comment. Been tinkering a lot with them, and I can recognize an AI when I see one.

[defaultaad2ywvie63z]

I wanted to add a beachbar to the photo of a beach and sea, and used only the prompt "beachbar". However I get a message that the beachbar was not generated because it violated the guidelines. This is really odd! On what base does it violate the guidelines? Can you clarify this?

[wizmosis]

I think the prudish community guidelines have a 'thing' about legs! I wanted to recreate something I saw while swimming so I used a photo of the pool underwater, and asked the prompt to fill it with "plump pale legs underwater." Nothing salacious about my concept. It's something I see everyday and find very beautiful (I'm female by the way) but no, "Guideline violation" 

[jdavidbuerk]

@alphabet That's a great analogy; remove the training wheels - beating a dead horse at this point, but it's an unacceptable level of restriction / censorship (I hate using that word in this context but I think the concept is applicable).  Many of us shoot primarily portraits, most is totally unremarkable, some of which is boudoir, and some may even be spicier - it's nothing new, so it's silly to think that this should be a problem only now.

@lagedor222 You're right, there's zero reason Generative AI should be flagging that, however the Content-Aware Heal tool, or new beta Remove Tool (which works fantastic, btw, barring the occasional (internet / server?) delay) would be better for.

Also, do we know if the Generative AI will be outputting in higher resolution once it's out of beta?  I read on a 3rd party website that it's limited to 1024px maximum resolution currently, which obviously is tiny by today's standards.  While that works fine for many use-cases, that doesn't work for many others.  I've of course tried to keep working areas smaller with this in mind, but the average user when it comes out of beta will not be aware of, or understand, this limitation.  Another important limitation to keep in mind is this resolution limitation also prevents the Generative AI tool from properly matching many input's grain.  I'm shooting on an R5, which is 45MP SOOC, or 180MP if you've used Super Resolution (which is what I do for headshots).  At that resolution, Generative AI won't keep up with the natural grain of the camera even at 45MP for even just a medium sized area.  I've gotten around that limitation by faking it by matching the grain by applying a Camera RAW filter with matching grain (Amount: 25, Size: 15, for the average R5 file) onto the Generative AI's Smart Layer, and that does the trick most of the time, but it's another issue that needs to be looked at by Adobe before this is rolled out for primetime, becuase that's definitely a limitation, and it's something that nobody but powerusers like most of us here in this thread will be knowlegeable enough to work with.

[Rafael_Castano]

no puedo utilizar el relleno regenerativo en ningun caso, me sale siempre este mensaje,

¿Como puedo cambiarlo?

[Graham24508943nobd]

So much for the latest update. I was trying to create a fantasy forest. The words fairy and pixie violate user guidelines. GIVE ME A BREAK !!

[c.pfaffenbichler]

So much for the latest update. I was trying to create a fantasy forest. The words fairy and pixie violate user guidelines. GIVE ME A BREAK !!

»pixies in the woods« for example seems to work here … the results seem moderately useful but no guideline violation-alert. Maybe the plural makes a difference? 

[Vitalii1]

your AI algorithm restrict Generative Fill results  Ionly try to remove tatoo from the arm of my model

[Graham24508943nobd]

Will try, shame as almost every fairy generation is totally disfigured no matter how I spell it, I tried pegasus that got refused so I used a capital P that got through fine but the generations were completely unusable and really ugly

[Graham24508943nobd]

they're a long way off finished by the look of it

[c.pfaffenbichler]

they're a long way off finished by the look of it

And as far as I can tell they have not claimed otherwise. 

[Stapfoto]

Same here..... Getting something (lines and doorknob) out of a cupboard with skintone = violating the guidelines. I didn't use a prompt, just generative fill. 

[Graham24508943nobd]

Another issue I'm having a major issue with is numbers. I'll ask for a couple and get 3 for example

[rickiep73948756]

Same here no prompts just generative fill

[kevin stohlmeyer]

Hi @defaultaad2ywvie63z most likely its a false flag. Try variations of "beachbar" to see if you continue to get errors.

[ArnelGonce]

Im getting the same violation notice (one with a threat to remove my account 😞 which I've already reported) anytime there is skin tones in the selection.  

 One was a nose highlight, and one was the edge of a hand trying to fill the space behind where the ministers notebook was sticking out.  The last one has screen shots below.

[testingbeta2023]

Dès que j'essaie d'utiliser la nouvelle fonction "remplissage génératif" ce message apparaît : "Les images générées ont été supprimées, car elles enfraignent les consignes d'utilisation. 

J'ai essayé avec différentes photos (dont j'ai les droits d'utilisation), j'ai consulté les consignes, je ne vois pas d'où ça peut venir. 

merci pour votre aide.

[Jennifer257637337x81]

It would be helpful to be able to indicate whether a guideline violation alert is accurate or not. I'm using the generative tool to clean up a pic of an old photograph. It is generally working great to clean up crease lines, etc. But there is a line on the photo I'm trying to use generative tool to remove and fill with the background. I'm getting guideline violations over and over and can't proceed. I've read all the guidelines and do not understand why it is flagged as a violation. I'm using Photoshop Beta 24.7.0 Release on Mac OS Monterey Version 12.6.7.

[ArnelGonce]

Ive not had any luck with anything flesh toned.  Hands, noses, whatever, if it's bare skin, it violates.  The first time it happened, it said something like I'd lose my account if I did it again.  

[Graham24508943nobd]

try typing in woman posing or man posing followed by a full stop. Or period.

[testingbeta2023]

Hi !

I have the same guidelines flag probleme.

I tried differents images, differents prompts, restarted the mac, red the guidelines...

If there is anything to try to avoid this flag, I all ears

Thank you very much,

[davescm]

Hi , I've moved your post from the Photoshop forum to the Photoshop Beta forum where you are more likely to get help with your issue.