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P: Generated images violate user guidelines

Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Adobe Employee , Nov 10, 2023 Nov 10, 2023

Dear Community,

On November 7th, 2023, the Firefly for Photoshop service was updated and improved for this issue. You should encounter fewer guideline errors when working on or near skin-tone areas that do not violate the community guidelines.

While the improvement is a big step in the right direction, we are continuing to explore new ways to minimize false-positives. Please continue to give us feedback on this new forum thread and also report false violation errors in the application.
Thank you

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Community Expert ,
Jul 03, 2023 Jul 03, 2023
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they're a long way off finished by the look of it

And as far as I can tell they have not claimed otherwise. 

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Explorer ,
Jul 03, 2023 Jul 03, 2023

Same here..... Getting something (lines and doorknob) out of a cupboard with skintone = violating the guidelines. I didn't use a prompt, just generative fill. _EB14764.jpg

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Engaged ,
Jul 03, 2023 Jul 03, 2023

Another issue I'm having a major issue with is numbers. I'll ask for a couple and get 3 for example

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New Here ,
Jul 03, 2023 Jul 03, 2023
Same here no prompts just generative fill
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Community Expert ,
Jul 03, 2023 Jul 03, 2023

Hi @defaultaad2ywvie63z most likely its a false flag. Try variations of "beachbar" to see if you continue to get errors.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

Im getting the same violation notice (one with a threat to remove my account 😞 which I've already reported) anytime there is skin tones in the selection.  

 One was a nose highlight, and one was the edge of a hand trying to fill the space behind where the ministers notebook was sticking out.  The last one has screen shots below.

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New Here ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

Dès que j'essaie d'utiliser la nouvelle fonction "remplissage génératif" ce message apparaît : "Les images générées ont été supprimées, car elles enfraignent les consignes d'utilisation. 

J'ai essayé avec différentes photos (dont j'ai les droits d'utilisation), j'ai consulté les consignes, je ne vois pas d'où ça peut venir. 

merci pour votre aide.

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New Here ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

It would be helpful to be able to indicate whether a guideline violation alert is accurate or not. I'm using the generative tool to clean up a pic of an old photograph. It is generally working great to clean up crease lines, etc. But there is a line on the photo I'm trying to use generative tool to remove and fill with the background. I'm getting guideline violations over and over and can't proceed. I've read all the guidelines and do not understand why it is flagged as a violation. I'm using Photoshop Beta 24.7.0 Release on Mac OS Monterey Version 12.6.7.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

Ive not had any luck with anything flesh toned.  Hands, noses, whatever, if it's bare skin, it violates.  The first time it happened, it said something like I'd lose my account if I did it again.  

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Engaged ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

try typing in woman posing or man posing followed by a full stop. Or period.

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New Here ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

Hi !

 

I have the same guidelines flag probleme.

I tried differents images, differents prompts, restarted the mac, red the guidelines...

 

If there is anything to try to avoid this flag, I all ears

 

Thank you very much,

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

Hi , I've moved your post from the Photoshop forum to the Photoshop Beta forum where you are more likely to get help with your issue.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

@Pete.Green would you/the team consider the option, in future betas, to add a "report inaccuracy" button below the view guidelines. I've run into this issue a couple of times – in one instance, I was trying to remove an elderly gentleman wearing a hat, polo, and average-length shorts; clearly not violence or nudity – but other than the 'beaker' bug option or Dropbox, there isn't a really good way to seamlessly report these errors.

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Explorer ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

God knows I'm not the first to write this, but Adobe should urgently review the algorithms. It's just ridiculous and fails more every day. Another small example? A birthday picture of my friend with her grandma, private snapshot, just a little fun by the way. Generated a big heart-shaped balloon (the adjacent face parts looked like zombies, so manual mask painting needed, not a big deal, but...). After that I wanted to test how Type works now (knowing that this is difficult, so only as a test). "Happy Birthday"? Well, not nice but at least allowed... "Feliz cumpleaños" => Violation.. Probably because of the Spanish "años". This is where the problem lies: Prompts are taken out of context, and there is no apparent understanding. I'm not talking about learning yuchi here, I'm talking about one of the most used phrases in the world. Again: it's clearly written, "english only", and it's a beta version, but I'm already concerned that the AI in the rollout will only speak the language that Photoshop is installed in (or gelocation or some other clumsy nonsense)

Also impossible: Putting something ON a model (even if previously AI generated) because it was too revealing. Put it ON, don't take it OFF! How are you supposed to do fashion photography anyway? Or retouch holiday pictures with bikinis in the background? Edit an Olympic swimmer? What happens with a melanoma on bare skin (medicine). Or - and now it's getting really crazy: Apart from daily business with retouching jobs, what about work creatively and generate art? Adobe is once again missing the boat, started very well, but unfortunately becomes more and more unusable from day to day.

 

For my creative work I am currently using midjourney and Leonardo, along with many others that are new to the market every day. 

 

Enough of the criticism, here at least one suggestion for improvement (I have a few more, but for now as a start): Supposedly bad prompts should be seen in a context ("Cover nude parts of the body" should not create an error but on the contrary do what the Artist required (see screenshot, prompt: "Cover nude parts of her body" and "hide décolletage").

 

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Verdict: For anyone who tells me as a German that Germans are narrow-minded and strict, let me tell you: Adobe AI must have been born in Prussia! 😉

 

I hope you fix the teething troubles and continue to make Photoshop the best there is in terms of image editing.

 

Note: The attached image is pixelated as it is a friend's private image and as a professional I know how I deal with privacy rights and publications. I don't need AI for that 😉

Photoshop 24.7.0., Mac OS Ventura

 

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Community Expert ,
Jul 04, 2023 Jul 04, 2023

That's normal with most ai apps. The bots don't seem to understand numbers. For example, I prompted Goldilocks and the three bears elsewhere and always got two bears. I finally composited the third bear in photoshop. 

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Engaged ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

I'v e spent nearly an hour trying to re generate a badly disfigured hand. God knows how many time it was replaced by a foot. Are they taking the [removed by moderator] now ?

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New Here ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

The AI does a terrible job at body parts. Hands look the craziest. They always come out disfigured and alien like. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

The content filter in Generative Fill is completely sexist and will block any picture of a fully clothed woman who simply has curves.  Are we saying there is something wrong with how these women are made?  I've tried quite a few, and any bit of curves causes a block.   Bikini picture?  You can just forget about that.  Beach photography is completely off-limits to this tool.   Should I go back to using Midjourney?  There is no reasonable excuse why a beach/bikini picture should be blocked by the filter. 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

3626174533478290217.jpegThe filter blocks this picture, for example. 

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Engaged ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

face too can be DIRE more often than not. What takes me more time than anything is sorting a face or hand

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New Here ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

I cannot create a possum animal and I don't understand why.  I get the yellow/orange prompt box: "The generated images were removed because they violate user guidelines".

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New Here ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

I cannot create a Penquin animal as well.  Once again, when I make a rectangular selection and type "Create a Penquin" in the generative fill box I get the yellow/orange prompt box "The generated images were removed because they violate user guidelines"  Anyone else having issues with other animals?

Thanks.

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Engaged ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

have you tried the period or full stop after the word possum ?  Also works for most other prompts as well

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Community Expert ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

I agree with @Graham24508943nobd and would add to maybe try "opossum" instead of "possum."  We call them by both of those names, but we don't say "possum animal" or "penguin animal."

-edit typo

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Community Expert ,
Jul 05, 2023 Jul 05, 2023

Empty prompt

 

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